Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] question about vitamin combinations

2007-09-30 16:13:28

the best way and faster absorption rate w/ calcium is to take it w/ vitamin c.
You can either by it in calcium citrate or take regular calcium w/ a chewable
vitamin c. I actually take the viactive calcium D along w/ a chewable C. The
vitamin D has been great for my skin and this seems to be a combination that my
body is good with. I only take 2 calciums a day but your dietician knows what
your body needs. I take a my calcium when I get up and then again at lunchtime.
My multi and my B12 I take w/ my morning snack. I think that you will have to
play with times and see what your body likes.
Lisa A
Darlene <dashcraft1@...
My dietician told me to take calcium 3Xday and to not take it with my
multi,
which I take 2Xday. Are there any other vitamins I can take with the calcium
I'm pretty sure D is ok...
I take: multis, calcium, iron, C, B12, zinc, biotin, D -- I think that's all
..
Hugs,
Darlene

Lisa
284/271/187/135

Re: one more lb.

2007-09-30 14:23:58

63 lbs is fantastic though, Pat. Focus on the positive!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/165/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Eliptical

2007-09-30 08:05:13

Lizanne,
Did the stepper thing just go up and down, or did it go in a circular up and
down. I know that sounds weird, but there are just plain steppers which don't
have the movable arm things. That may have been what you were on. They are very
similar except that the eliptical's steppers sort of move in the fashion of a
bicycle instead of just straight up and down. Either way, it just kills the
thighs!
Sara
Lap DS
360/353/267/160
HW/SW/CW/GW

Cymbalta and Delayed Release

2007-09-29 21:05:32

What is the pill? i cant remember if you said before
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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bullet

2007-09-29 17:23:11

I bit the bullet and bought the magic bullet. It was 60 bucks but it was most
well-spent purchase I've made in a long time. It adds quality to the powders or
something...powders I thought I hated are now more than tolerable.
San, 34, Single
No Kids - Zion, IL
Far North 'burb of Chgo
Lap RNY 08.28.07
Highest Weight: 370
Surgery Weight: 370
Current Weight: 299
Goal Weight: 150

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "THIS GROUP IS SO TALKATIVE"

2007-09-29 14:46:21

Beth!!!! How the heck are you woman? How is the Vertigo? any news on your
surgery?
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW170**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Online College

2007-09-29 10:17:16

I'll check this out and Naomi's suggestion.
Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Western Governors University. www.wgu.edu It is a completely online school (no
actual campus) and they allow you to work at your own pace and fit as many
courses as you can into one 6 month term. My tuition is about $2500 per 6 month
term
San, 34, Single
No Kids - Zion, IL
Far North 'burb of Chgo
Lap RNY 08.28.07
Highest Weight: 370
Surgery Weight: 370
Current Weight: 299
Goal Weight: 150

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] feeling better already

2007-09-29 02:35:00

Thats wonderful Millie. . just keep walking and siping. . warm chamomile tea or
warm chicken broth feels good too ...Sounds like your doing great!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Re-Training Our Brains?

2007-09-28 14:35:28

Jill,
I am not sure i can answer all your questions cuz im only 6 mo out . . but your
pouch wont allow you to over eat too much in the beginning. . I am finding
lately that i can tolerate more different things w/o having dumping syndrome but
i still cant eat much in volume. . I hope i stay this way forever . .i dont want
to gain my wt back EVER AGAIN!!
i do believe that for some of us, eating has been a way of coping w/ what ever
has gone on in our lives .. or being just plain addicted to food period. . The
surgery helps but I believe its up to the person who realizes they have a
problem w/ food, to consult w/ a couselor or whoever can help them deal w/ their
issues. . The pouch is only a tool... and it can be misused if not taken care
of. .
Thats how i see it anyway . .I dont get hungry .. but i have ALWAYS had a
munching problem. . little things like sunflower seeds or popcorn etc. . things
that keep my hands busy . ...i need to deal w/ that also .. I hope i answered
some of what you wanted to know. .the members that are farther out from surgery
will have to answer the rest. . I am just not there yet.. :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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Re: question about vitamin combinations

2007-09-28 14:00:56

Darlene,
Most Calcium supplements have D with them, if not you should take a D
with your calcium. I was also told that we should take calciun citrate
not carbonate. Easier for it to absorb in our intestines. Vitamin C
and Iron are good partners too. Other than that, I don't know. I
would try to seperate my multi from the rest so I wasn't dumping a
bunch of the same vitamins all the same time. My body may get rid of
the excess. But that is just the way I do things, not scientific at
all.
What works for me is this....first I fill one of those daily vitamin
pill cases with all my vitamons except my multi and my B12. Then I
keep my multi and my B12 in my medicine cabinet next to my toothbrush.
After I brush my teeth I take the multi and the B12 under my tongue.
Then on my desk at work, I keep the pill carrier open to the current
day. As I eat something, I take one or two of the vitamins, then at my
next meal, I do the same thing. That way you are taking these vitamins
with a meal and seperate from one another. You don't have to do it
that way, but that's what works best for me.
Lizanne
Open RNY 8/17/07
251/180/125

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] bullet

2007-09-28 11:00:13

I love the magic bullet. . good for you San :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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radiotherapy and creams

2007-09-28 07:15:08

Hi all.
I have been reading a lot about creams for radiotherapy (UK term ) (USA
radiation treatment) ~ same thing.
Don't know if it is available in USA but 'Flamazine' ~ silver sulphadiazine
1.0% is brilliant if your burn is inflamed and sore. Read the pack insert for
more info.
My hospital recommends Aloe Vera gel for surface burns but whatever you have
keep in the fridge, wrapped, it is even soothing just being cold. (Surface burn
is classed as reddening with soreness) (no breaks in the skin)
Whilst the Flamazine soothed and prevented my burn getting worse it did not
actually improve it greatly except for the peripheral areas. But my burn was
from internal, interstial, iridium rods radiotherapy. In the end I had to have a
latissimus dorsi flap to graft over as during the 7 years I had shrinkage and
and scarring building up that was thick and gnarled and the oncologist I was
then seeing (and still am) was concerned about recurrence in the scarring
If you have any open skin/wounds make sure you apply all aseptic techniques ~
wash hands thoroughly and dry on disposable towel or certainly a freshly
laundered one, then use a glove to apply, you can cover with film if you need to
apply a thick layer. Never rub in, just lay it on. You can ask the hospital for
gloves and film. Sorry if I sounds bossy here.
Also don't apply soap or anything perfumed, just trickle water over the area,
I know this is difficult when you are in the shower but avoid anything that may
irritate. And don't rub dry, just dab gently or put a hairdryer on cool and blow
dry.
If you are searching the net look up 'burns treatment' rather than 'burns
radiation' you will get a whole set of different pages.
Wear clothing that doesn't irritate, pure soft cotton is ideal and don't use
biological washing powder, tablets or whatever, get something for sensitive
skin. Ask about fabric softeners ~ divided thoughts here in UK.
I had a burn down to the sternum and manubrium bones, the skin surface area of
about 3 inches by 5 inches, but only later found out how deep it was, it
remained open, bleeding and weepng for 7 years, partly due to the fact that I
had a dreadful oncologist who refused to do anything about it or refer me,
always giving me some excuse not to go and see someone else. That was in the
days when I didn't go against what I was told. (HUH that has changed now ~ I
challenge!)
I sometimes think his refusal to refer me to a plastics and burns specialist
was because he didn't want anyone to see me like that, to see what treatment he
had given me. And I had complained to him that I had not been fully informed
about the internal radiotherapy and the side effects and had I known I wouldn't
have had it ( I had tubes like fine drinking straws inserted in theatre through
one side of the breast or what was left of it and out the other side, then the
physicist brought the iridium wires/rods which were threaded through the tubes
and bolted on at each end and there I remained for one week in an isolation
room. I was bear breasted as clothes caught on it all and pulled, the weight of
the mechanics tearing me at the cleavage edge because there was really no tissue
to support the weight and realising there and then that I had made a dreadful
mistake. ( the original tumour had been on the inside edge near the cleavage)
Once my family doctor referred me to a specialist and must have sent a copy
letter of the referral to my oncologist because a week or so later I received a
letter in the post to say an appointment could not be made because I was still
under the care of Dr so and so and I could not be seen. Some years later when I
applied for a copy of my records, I found a letter from the oncologist
requesting I not be seen, so my suspicions had been right all along. (Under the
NHS system it has been traditional for patients not to see their notes/results
but 'The freedom of information' laws have changed all that as you can now apply
for copies, though the hospital makes a charge for them. I automatically get
copies of everything now as standard even though I am at a (different) NHS
hospital.)
But when I found another burns and plastic surgeon, I photographed myself and
typed a letter explaining the problems and asked my family doctor to send these
and NOT let my oncologist know, for the first time I had someone who firstly
said, 'Good Heavens I didn't know anyone was still using this old fashioned
treatment, this went out 20 years ago and then said now what we can do is.....
because this will never heal.' The next time I saw this surgeon I was
photographed by all the students who were lined up to see the state I was in.
But then was sent to the geneticist who recommended prophylactic mastectomies
and so that was done first. Also the surgeon could look under the burn as much
as he dare to get an idea of how he would proceed with remedying the burn site
and a latissimus dorsi flap was the only answer ~ which was entirely successful.
But before that I had to have a CT guided core biopsy from the bone ...... this
is another story and gruesome too, done at another
hospital as a cardio thoracic specialist had to do it, then a bone scan that
showed hot spots from the collar bone down to the end of the sternum andacroos
part of 5 ribs but the result of the biopsy showed no cancer ... at that time,
it did later. (Hot spots on bone scans show abnormalities which may or may not
be cancer and my hot spots at that time were radiotherapy damage.)
Anyhow I have rambled on for long enough ~ I only meant to write about the
Flamazine and Aloe Vera but got carried away!!! I think it has been cathartic.
Might I just say thank you so much for all the support I have had this week
after finding out the cancer has progressed again. I truly do not believe I
would have got throught this week without you, you are precious and treasured
friends indeed, what wonderful people you are, be safe, Velvet

Thanks for the welcome

2007-09-27 19:36:00

Thanks ladies for the welcome. Marianne, I don't know a Don Coursey I
live in Georgia and the only Courseys I know are my fathers siblings
and my cousins. Leane, the interaction I had was severe chills with
cold sweats and then I passed out 2 times which I had never done in my
life. My husband caught me just before I hit the floor. They kept me
overnite in the ER giving me Saline to flush out the meds and ran all
kinds of tests. Then my Onyc brought me to his office the next day and
gave me more Saline. Dr checked on my reaction and it had never been
seen with these 2 drugs before so I was a fluke but it was reported to
the drug companies so they would document it. Sue, thanks for your
welcome and my prayers are with you and your family that you stay
safe. Also I am not really young, I will be 46 next week, I just
waited till later to have my child. I like you also watch my diet and
I take supplements along with the traditional medical help. I also
believe that prayer is very powerful and know that whatever happens
that God is in control. Marianne, Leane, Sue, hope ya'll don't mind
the books I write when I post but I'm not real good about condensing
things. God bless all of you. Kathy

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Disney World Trip

2007-09-27 12:44:04

Debby, bummer bummer!!! but I understand. Maybe the No Cali's can do a girls
weekend. If sharon can't come to us we can go to her :) it looks beautiful up
there where she is.
Judy --- NEW YEAR, NEW US!
"Everything Is Easier With Friends"
"Be Blessed In All Your Steps"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
262

CA27

2007-09-27 07:00:47

My CA27 went up again. I've been hospitiised a lot lately do to
getting sick all the time. A lot of that had to do with my chemo
gemzar, all the sudden making me sick. So they switched me to
taxotere which didn't work. The gemzar work's real good, so we're
going back to that, but that make's me so sick, so I really could use
some prayer's here. I see a radiation doctor on the 19th, to get red
of the cancer in my lower back and right hip. It's got me on a cane
and using morphine patches and ton's of vicadine. I can sit now
because I've had about 4 vicadine since 7 this morning. I've been a
bit down over this cancer allthough I know it will go away soon, the
chemo will drop it fast so will the radiation and I trust in God.
I've just been very upset at my fraility and having to count so much
on my kids. My daughter is home sorta, she took off yesterday as I
was at the hospital, she got bored there, and has not come home or
called. I'm very hurt by this as I was just in court for her this
Tuesday missing my onc appointmont and a chemo session for her. They
dropped her probation and let her come home, but as sweet as she may
act around me, she is still behaving like her old self. She said she
just want's two week's and then she'll behave. I think I know where
she went. She has a boyfriend who come's back from Marine bootcamp
next week and that's all she could think about. I'm not angry at her
for this boyfriend I am upset that she is dishonest and that she goes
behind my back and does thing's and that she break's the rule's I lay
down. I really could use prayer for her, and my current health
situation. I've also lost 20 pound's within less then 2 month's. I
can't eat anymore. My onc. is worried. And while I'm happy about
losing weight, I guess it's a bad thing right now. Actually I'd like
to lose about 10 more pounds. However I need my good nutrition as my
onc. told me today. So I need to be able to eat. Also I know it's a
lot I need more help around the house, so a prayer to get my son
motivated would be nice as my health has made it hard for me to pick
up around the house. Okay and one more request for our girl's and
boy's in Iraq. I live in a marine town so these people are close to
my heart. Thank's. I'm hardly ever at the computer, so I really
don't know what's going on with everybody, I hope everyone is well.
Hi Parvin I hope you are getting better, last I read you didn't seem
to be doing so well but you'r hope's where high and that matter's, my
prayer's and thought's are with you.
Love,
Audrey

Re: Thanks for the welcome

2007-09-27 02:25:23

Welcome, Kathy!
Love & Healing Energies,
Kathy

Re: catch up???

2007-09-26 16:57:38

Jess,
I am so glad you checked in before you headed off for your surgery.
We have been gabbing more than usual. It may be that usually I don't
read posts on the weekend and today I did. I felt very gabby myself.
Is your mom with you yet? Is she taking you to the hospital? Do you
have your chapstick packed? Do you have some sugar free popsicles in
the house?
Okay, then. You should be all ready. You have filled your head with
every fact you could possibly need. You are ready to take care of
yourself.
Good luck and we will all be waiting to see you in the losers' lounge
when you get back. Just don't monopolize all the cabana boys or Lora
will get jealous. Wasn't it nice that you received the support from
your friends before you had to go in for the surgery?
Lizanne

Has anybody had this much chemo?

2007-09-26 10:31:56

Hi All,
I haven't posted for a while but do check in once in a while. I am
Stage IV triple neg.,mets to lungs (a few very small tumors) and have
been stable with great bloodwork. CHemo started in May with 12
Adriamycin, and next week will be #6 Taxotere and am schedualed for 2
more after that which will be a total of 20 chemo's. Is this normal?
Seems like alot to me!
Thanks,
Jamie

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] Thanks for the welcome

2007-09-26 09:52:48

Kathy,
You write as much as you want. We are glad to hear from the members. I will
continue to keep you in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Johns Hopkins Hospital

2007-09-26 00:33:59

"c" word? You mean canula??
Using a nasal canula on more than one patient is just disgusting... it gives
me the creeps just thinking about it. God knows what kind of bacteria they
could spread with that practice... like MRSA and VRE, to name a couple!! Too
bad you didn't think fast enough to report that.
Pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Edie,
I believe that the research its professionals do is outstanding. I
also believe that its burn unit is also well known. My surgeon did a
good job on me, except that my scar is really ugly and I ended up
with this hernia, which I am not sure is his fault. I always thought
it was a great place too.
I had a horrible experience in the hospital after my surgery. There
were so many little mistakes made, so little interest in my comfort.
I have told the story here before, but just suffice it to say that
the majority of misery I suffered at home and at the hospital had to
do with lack of care. It's all better now, but not then. That's why
I dread going back.
I just remembered something else they did that now I am disgusted
about. I had a "c" word in my nostrils for oxygen after my surgery
because my levels were really low. I think it had to do with the
lack of fluids I was receiving but I don't remember. I was sitting
in a chair next to my bed, and forgot to reinsert the little tuby
things in my nose. A nurse walked in and asked if I was using it
because they had run low on supplies and needed it for someone else.
I said she could have it. That's not the weirdest part. These
things are plastic. My guess is that they can't be sterilized. So,
someone had my nose thingy up their nose. UGH!!! I keep wondering
if that's where mine came from.
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Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] Has anybody had this much chemo?

2007-09-25 15:48:28

Hi Jamie,
I had my chemo 15 1/2 yrs ago and it was CMF. I will keep you in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] CA27

2007-09-25 12:09:22

Audrey, I will keep you, your daughter and son and everyone in Iraq and every
where else in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Smoking - Lizanne - knee exercises

2007-09-25 07:28:32

Lizanne, before I forget... I am working on knee exercises for you, and I swear
on my beloved sister's life that the part about the chicken suit is a legitimate
part of the exercises and you HAVE TO wear it or the therapy won't work. :)
Pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Sharon,
We all know you can do it. We all know this is just a bump in the
road. Right now, you are busy and your mind is occupied by other
distractions. But you are letting yourself down. You will soon
remember you are important to us here and to your family and you will
do what you need to do. Then, no more excuses. Until then, we will
keep reminding you that we love you and that you need to love
yourself. We are all routing for you, even your evil younger twin
sister, Pat.
Lizanne
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Jamei

2007-09-25 03:03:27

from ten years ago i have had 30 sessions of chemo with 6 roundsof cmf,12 rounds
of taxoterewith ten times of adriamycin,12 injection of navelbin that
means 6 times .now i am on femara daily and xeloda 6 pills a day for two weeks
on and off.there are many protocolsfor chemo.so staypositive. we have to
tolerate this state and go on this hard pathway withGOD,S HELP,FOR OUR
FAMILY. love parvin

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Camera

2007-09-24 14:36:40

okay, pat, joan I misquoted so sorry. will stay out of the loop from now on.. I
saw where pat said she forgot to flex for camera and thought it had said to
bring the camera. okay. mind my business! it's not been my day on here today. i
definitely need a vacation.

Judy -- 21 DAYS and COUNTING!!!
262/234
HW/CW
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Anniversary Reminder

2007-09-24 08:17:58

HAPPY SURGIVERSARY MARY!!!
YOUR ONE HOT MOMMA!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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Finding Your Spiritual Strength in the Midst of Your Emotional Turmoil

2007-09-24 07:14:04

Spiritual Strength in the Midst of Your Emotional Turmoil
<http://www.clickaudit.com/goto/?30114
There were so many emotions that I experienced in 2003 when the
doctor confirmed I had Breast Cancer; I was overwhelmed. That was
a point in my life that seemed to play out in slow motion. I was in a
perpetual state of emotional turmoil. I had so many different emotions
surfacing then, some of them I couldn't even identify.
There were many days when I was bombarded by questions for which
I didn't have the answers; and in some instances, I had answers
but no questions. I sometimes felt like I had been punched by a world
class boxer in the middle of my stomach; all the air was knocked out of
me.I couldn't catch my breath, and for a little while I allowed this
to be my reality.
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pain in my back is KILLING me

2007-09-24 07:04:26

It was bothering me a little this morning before my massage, was fine
during the massage, flared up briefly afterward, then subsided
completely until about an hour ago... I woke up in a lot of pain.
(STILL no word on the MRI they did.) I'm not sure what to do. I took
some Tylenol (yeah, right, like THAT'S going to help), and I guess
I'll try a heating pad to see if that helps. My mom thinks it might
be a pinched nerve and not have anything to do with anything internal
at all.
I hate to go to the ER, literally lay around for hours in pain, and
not have them find anything. On the other hand, this really hurts. I
wish I had some of the Lortab left from after surgery.
Ok, I'm done whining.
Lora

mom acting weird????

2007-09-23 19:28:51

Hi All,
If you remember me posting this summer, my mom has recurrance in the
same breast and mets to lung and liver after using Tamoxifen for 3
years. Then she went on Femara but nothing got smaller, in fact the
mets in liver got bigger so she had 6 sessions of Taxotere this
summer, and then they stopped because of neutropenic fever and then
she went back on Femara.
This Nov. we found out lungs are clean, recurrance in the breast is
gone but the mets in liver which got smaller with Taxotere, doubled
in size when she was on Femara between August and November. They
also found 3 small tumors in the same breast again. Now she is on
Herceptin and Xeloda. She is Her2+++. So far she had 3 treatments of
Herceptin and she was handling well except for a cold like symptom
and a bit of a fever. This morning she told me she couldn't remember
my 2nd name. She panicked and had to check my birth certificate.
I am so worried as to why this is happening. Is it Xeloda causing
this? Is it temporary or will it start happening more?
Thanks and hugs to all
Beyza

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] mom acting weird????

2007-09-23 10:46:51

Hi Beyza,
Chemo can cause what is know as chemo brain. I have it really bad. Sometimes it
only lasts awhile and other times its long term. I will keep your Mom in my
prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Laetrile

2007-09-23 10:15:51

Hi all.
It was the FDA that brought the case against Laetrile or Vance the owner, I
should say. It seems he has been raking in the $$$$$ but is now serving 63
months in prison with a further 3 year supervision order. He has swindled a vast
amount of cancer patients for his so called 'cure.'
For full details look up 'FDA news Laetrile Vance 63 months'
Thought this may be of interest for you all. LOL Velvet

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] clothing

2007-09-22 23:15:31

Lora
It is so amazing isnt it! I am so happy for you. It sure feels good. I have
found that the larger sizes seem to last the longest as far as wearability after
surgery. I think you will be amazed that from now on it can be only a week and
you will be in a new size. I was only in size 16 for 2 weeks. It blows my
mind. Make sure that you go through your old things and find the ones that can
be passed on and put them on the clothing site. I would offer you mine, but I
have taken on a "sister" in my area who is getting all of my hand-me-downs and
then hopefully passing them on to someone else.
Make sure you also post on your local Freecycle or Craigslist for clothing.
It is a great way to get the clothing you need w/out the price you dont.
Another thing everyone should know is that better clothing tends to be cute a
little fuller. So it may cost more, but in the long run it will fall nicer over
the leftover skin. The best idea though while going through the quick
weightloss is to go to Old Navy. They always have super sale racks and since
they are the baby store for Banana Republic, they also cut their clothes big.
I think that someone on this site turned me on to the 15dollarstore.com
AWESOME! Everything is $15. If you spend $100 there is free shipping. They do
have a full size section and all of the clothes are very youthful.
Just some ideas Lora (and anyone who cares) Sorry it was so long winded
Lisa A
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I am 4 pounds short of joining the Century Club. (yay!) When I had
surgery, I was wearing 4x/3x tops (I have *always* had a large bust
and envision things hanging BELOW the equator once all is said and
done!), a size 26/28 dress, and size 28 pants (one pair of jeans were,
ugh, a 30, and in the Lands End sport knit pants, which I love, I was
wearing a 3x, but they do stretch... I would have been wearing a 4x in
that, too, if they HAD a 4x).
FINALLY -- it only took 100 pounds {grrr} -- the sizes are starting to
drop. The 4x stuff (except for one pair of pants and one sweater that
I am purposely saving as "before" clothing) is long gone to Goodwill
or the vets, and all of my 3x stuff is too big (but I have to wear
*some* of it anyway so I have a variety of outfits). Some of the 2x
tops are still a little too snug for comfort (physical and
psychological), but I'm down to a 24 in jeans (I can get one pair of
22s on, but the waist is too tight (it makes that "alien" hurt a
bit)), and the 2x sport knit pants are going to have to be retired
soon in favor of 1x's.
I threw several bras away (they were soooo stetched out), and today...
{drumroll please...} I finally threw out about a dozen pairs of
underwear because they were sliding down or too baggy!
I know it's only a couple of sizes, and I'm still several sizes away
from being able shop "misses" instead of "women's" or "plus", but it
has taken me SO long to start dropping sizes (and, to be honest, it is
still hard for me to read about others who change a size only a couple
of weeks post-op... I'm happy for EVERYONE to drop sizes, but it's
still frustrating to read). The last thing I want to do is buy a new
suit and then have to buy another one later in the season! I don't
even remember how many of my old ones I saved and what sizes they are.
Lora
Lisa
284/271/187/135

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] pain in my back is KILLING me

2007-09-22 23:08:35

Lora,
I'm sorry you're still hurting. Any idea when the MRI results are due? You
might want to call your Dr. and have a prescription for pain medication phoned
in. The Emergency room is never a good idea unless you don't have a choice.
Debby
Lora <cicerogirl@...
It was bothering me a little this morning before my massage, was fine
during the massage, flared up briefly afterward, then subsided
completely until about an hour ago... I woke up in a lot of pain.
(STILL no word on the MRI they did.) I'm not sure what to do. I took
some Tylenol (yeah, right, like THAT'S going to help), and I guess
I'll try a heating pad to see if that helps. My mom thinks it might
be a pinched nerve and not have anything to do with anything internal
at all.
I hate to go to the ER, literally lay around for hours in pain, and
not have them find anything. On the other hand, this really hurts. I
wish I had some of the Lortab left from after surgery.
Ok, I'm done whining.
Lora

Cancer information that I hope helps. (Diagnosis)

2007-09-22 12:31:46

Cancer information that I hope helps. (Diagnosis)
A site deticated to helping people with Cancer or someone they know
who has cancer.
http://wadesterscancerinfo.blogspot.com

test results - scalp tenderness

2007-09-22 06:03:43

Got the results of my tests...blood work is looking great. All my
numbers are higher than they have ever been so that is very good news.
The CT Scan shows that two of the tumors in my liver have actually
increased in size in the last 3 months. Dr. thinks maybe the liver is
taking longer to repond to Femara so we will give it another month and
redo the ct scan. I feel good so hopefully that is the case.
I had an MRI on my head on Friday because I have had a lot of
tenderness in the back of my skull for a couple of weeks now. Dr.
wants to rule out any mets in my skull. Probably won't hear anything
about that until later this week.
I was wondering if anyone else has experienced tenderness in their
scalp...I'm thinking maybe the rapid hair growth is causing my head to
be tender??? It's been so long since the first time I lost my hair
that I don't remember if I've had this problem before or not.

Re: Online Dating

2007-09-22 03:00:32

be with anyone...?
Mary, Mary, Mary.............. Just Not Now Yet! You need a little
time to shake this last guy OUT of your head ALL the way! It's just
WAY too soon in my opinion, I have been away from mine for TWO YEARS
this month and I STILL am not sure I wouldn't choose his twin if I
tried dating yet so I DON'T. I don't really look anymore or think
about it so much.
The more thoughts I have about HIM, the LONGER I know I need to take.
When he is NO LONGER A FACTOR in my thinking, good, bad, or
otherwise, he is no longer the basis of my comparisons, THEN I think
I will be ready. I know that eventually I think I want Someone in my
life but it HAS to be healthy or NOT AT ALL. Because I don't want to
go back down that dark, deluded road again. You don't want that next
guy to bail on you too, after your heart is again fully invested???
Do you really want to feel that pain all over again Mary?
Just as I said to Jess (who I think may not realize that she could
have any guy around) take this time as your blessing, as your time to
heal inside and out, get strong and THEN let a man in, when you can
TELL FOR SURE that he has your well-being at heart, not just what You
Can Do For HIM! You never know, you may even get that EX back AFTER
HE GOES AND GETS HEALTHY HIMSELF. He will not do you any good in the
condition he is currently in and he can not get better with you in
the picture. GIVE IT TIME, YES a few YEARS IF NEED BE. If it's meant
to be, it will happen, otherwise you will meet the one that IS meant
to be.
Don't rush this, because then you will get it right.
Joanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 5k update...

2007-09-21 18:00:25

Way to go Theresa!! What a feeling of accomplishment you must have! Right now
I couldn't run to save my life, but I hope to be able to do that someday :)
Pat
Theresa Rodriguez <trodri9302@...
Hey everyone!
Wanted to update you on my run this morning. It was 33 degrees when the race
started out at 8:30. Just a bit chilly but I warmed up fast once I began
running. My time was 45 minutes for 3.1 miles. Not bad for being so cold. Nice
way to wake up this morning. Hope that everyone is having a good weekend.
Theresa Rodriguez

Re: mom acting weird????

2007-09-21 11:51:00

Dear Beyza, you are very lucky that your mom is on herceptin because
I asked me onc about it today and he said good things about it but I
can't have it because I am not HER2 positive, but if worse would
come to worse I think I would have him try it on me anyway if I
didn't have any choices left. The chemo is probably making your mom
all mixed up because I am exactly the same way. My onc even
mentioned chemo brain to me today. One time I was looking at my
bank statement and I showed I hadn't balanced my check book for
about 5 or 6 months and that has never happened to me before. I was
always faithful about doing that. Well you and your mom take care
now and prayers going to you and your mom. God Bless, Love, Sharon

Re: Funny thing happened today

2007-09-21 10:17:01

Joan, that's wonderful! I'll bet it felt good to hear that!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 20.4 lbs.

Re: These moments make it all worth while

2007-09-21 02:59:08

Lisa,
That is definitely memorable!!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 20.4 lbs.

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] test results - scalp tenderness

2007-09-20 19:23:37

Terri great news on the levels. I will continue to keep you in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life
http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html
BreastCancerStories.com
http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/
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www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com
Check out my other ornaments at
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Interesting Article on the side affects and Diagnosing of Mesothelioma.

2007-09-20 18:40:01

Interesting Article on the side affects and Diagnosing of Mesothelioma.
Surviving Mesothelioma, what you can do .
Diagnosing mesothelioma is often difficult, because the symptoms are
similar to those of a number of other conditions.
http://wadesterscancerinfo.blogspot.com

Re: feeling better already

2007-09-20 02:48:30

Millie,
Not only is that good to hear, but that walking is so good for *you*!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 20.4 lbs.

Re: Smoking - Joanne

2007-09-20 00:55:15

cigarettes!
Alli, it was the book! I want to yell this to everyone who has
someone that needs to quit or they think is having a difficult time
with a quit that they have already done! BUY the BOOK! $15 bucks
only!!! I can't TELL you all HOW much I spent on nicotine gums and
crap the other times I quit!!! And I didn't use ANY Of that crap this
time?!?!?!
"Stop Smoking The Easy Way"
Allen Carr
Please Dawn, buy this for your husband even if he has quit already.
This will help him STAY quit. We all have heard of people who quit
with health issues then took smoking back up and smoked themselves
inside out. With all the other stuff you are doing, this book should
be on top of the list.
Joanne

Re: Picking Up Smoking Again (Long Post to Sharon)

2007-09-19 17:54:11

And Sharon, I have figured out how you are going to pay me for my
compassion for you, ready????
I want you to do your damnedest to get that husband of yours to read
that book as well, OK? Both for his benefit and for yours! Do you
want to go through the last, best years of your life without him? Do
you want to succumb to the weed again because he is still using?
Please do your best to pay my bill Sharon!
Joanne
Seattle,
Not SO far away that I couldn't come down and be a bill collector!

thoughtful and caring. . and I have started the book. . I will be a
non smoker again soon. . Im so glad you have kicked it again and the
book i used helped you also. . Just the fact that you took the time
to tell me all this. . its an inspiration for me and i know i will
quit and be done w/ them soon..VERY SOON!!!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] catch up???

2007-09-19 17:01:06

Hey there Jess! I'm so happy to see you. It sounds like you're in good spirits
and ready for your big day! That's fantastic. I will continue to pray for you.
You have a great angel in Sharon. I know she will keep us all posted on how you
are doing.
P.S. Don't forget your chapstick!!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Cymbalta and Delayed Release

2007-09-19 08:50:53

Valtrex.
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 20.4 lbs.

ROLL CALL/CALENDAR UPDATES

2007-09-18 22:13:25

Sue in NYC
HW - 326 / CW - 142 / GW - 145
Lap RYN 4/26/06
Lower Body Lift / Brachioplasty 1/9/08
I joined this list a few months ago, but got a bit behind in emails. I am
currently recuperating from PS and healing pretty well,
Sue
In a message dated 1/22/2008 8:53:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
swinney_family@... writes:
Ann in Kansas (Proud Army Wife)
HW 260/CW 165/GW 130
Lap RYN 04-2005
Tummy Tuck/Breast Lift 01-2008
**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.
(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002\
5
48)

Back on Line

2007-09-18 16:03:52

Hi guys,
I'm back on line. I had a petscan last week and tomorrow I find out
the results. My CA27 went up, but I was just hospatilised for an
infection that wouldn't heal due to my white cells dropping to low,
and my best friend did some research and found that infections
ellivate tumor markers. I'm doing pretty good, still haveing huge
problems with my daughter. I'm going to be in the newspaper pretty
soon. There's a group called the Teresa Holden Foundation, that
grants wishes for 4th stage breast cancer patients, and they have
helped me to obtain a bird I've always wanted. A cockatoo. Her name
is Coconut and she's so adorable. I picked up the cage today, and I
was going to pick her up to, but there was some confusion as to when
I was picking her up, so the lady who helped locate a bird for me,
her name is Linda Biggie and she has so many birds including
flamigos, a heron, tocanns, cranes, o my gosh you name it! Anywho
she was misinformed as to the day I would be by to pick up Coconut
and she was at her other house. She had no problems with me takeing
Coconut today, but the foundation really needs the press so that
other cancer patients will come to them, and donors to, so I said I'd
wait a couple days when everyone can come together and the photo opp
can be organised. The Teresa Holden foundation was something started
for Teresa Holden who passed away from Breast cancer, her sister runs
it. I don't have their website but I know it can be found by
googling it, incase anyone is intrested. They help people do things
that couldn't afford to do on their own. They will pay for classes
and supplies, vacations and you can bring family members on a
vacation. They're great people! I've made a deal with Mrs. Biggie
that should I come into a position where I can no longer care for
Coconut, that I will return the bird to her. And that is a relief
for me, because of course even though I believe the cancer is gone,
and it's not going to come back, it's nice to know that the bird
would have someplace to go regardless. I hope everyone is doing good!
Audrey

off topic...long

2007-09-18 12:52:03

Delete away if you don't want to read more of my issues...I just woke up
screaming as usual from a bad dream. I can only imagine what my neighbor thinks
is going on in my palce. Sometimes I feel like I have to write this stuff down,
to get it out of me before it somothers me. Tonight is one of those nights....

Mary's surgiversary

2007-09-18 09:55:56

Congratulations Mary you've done wonderful.
Debby

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] Back on Line

2007-09-18 01:58:49

Audrey sorry to hear you are having problems with your daughter. You will be in
my prayers today for your appointment.
Hugs
Marianne
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http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html
BreastCancerStories.com
http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/
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Check out my other ornaments at
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Need a WLSF &amp; S Angel

2007-09-17 23:46:04

Now that I have posted too much today (well TWO days) I have to say I
have to pull out. I started at my laptop at around 2PM on Sunday and
now it is 3am on Monday. I only was behind this weekends' messages. I
don't know how all the rest of you do it but my eyes are swollen and
strained and my day is gone.
I am going off digest and I don't think I will have time to keep up
by going to the group from time to time. I suspect this is what
happened to the men and the reason I suspect that is that I don't
have a man which means I have to do all the man and woman work around
here and I can't see any man having enough time left over in his days
to keep up with thousands of emails.
I'd love to make a request for a Group Angel, that is anyone who has
a spare minute that could Please let me know if anything major
happens in here like a surgery happening, a new weight goal met, a
lost job, a new man in their life, things like that. I just can not
get by with all the extra posts anymore.
I feel like I know so many of you and what you are and have been
going through, I have right with you but I have to let go and step
back or I am going to implode.
It is so hard to believe that 2 MONTHS have gone by since I joined
here, time flys here, but on the other hand, time flys here. And I
have lost so much time that nothing can get done anymore. If only
there was a digest for the digest that I could get the main important
stuff and cut out for me the 'LOL's' and the chit chat. But the
computer doesn't know which one's I want so that is why I am being
selfish and asking anyone else if they can let me know what I am
missing and when I need to come in and read up?
If not, I get it, we are all busy in our own different ways. So I am
here, just not here. If anyone needs me just email me. Thank you ALL
for your support.
Joanne

San Apartment

2007-09-17 12:27:41

rejected my application. I am totally bummed. I was all set to pack
this weekend. I don't have a lot of options due to my credit history a
San, what about taking the money you had together to move with and
fixing up your current place a little with it? I forgot the details of
what was wrong with the place but maybe you could spruce it up a little
and feel beter about staying???
Joanne
Seattle

Pet Scan

2007-09-17 07:39:49

Marianne,
thanks for the prayers regarding my daughter. I've tried so hard to
help her and I've just accepted that things are the way they are and
when she's older she will wake up and pull it together then. Anywho
my pet scan results showed the cancer was all gone from my muscles
and organs ;however, activity showed up in my bones. The activity is
in places where I had allready dealt with cancer so there is the
possibility that the hot spots are due to damaged bone. There was a
hot spot found in my neck though in the bone. I have not had cancer
there before. Friday I'm getting a bone scan done so that will clear
that up. On breatcancer.org they showed the results of some research
that showed pet scans have a 58% false positive rate and a 40% true
positive rate, so it's very likely that what showed up on the neck is
not positive. My doctor thinks I'm still stable, but he's waiting on
the bone scan results. If the neck issue does turn out to be cancer
he'll change my chemo. He's also re-ordered another tumor marker
since the infection I had been dealing with effected the reading of
the last one. I'm definatly looking forward to these test as
they'll clear up things and I can rest a little easier. I can't
help but feel a little apprehensive about things because of the pet
scan and the pain I've been in which corrolates with the spots that
showed up on the pet scan. But then again it showed up in the lower
back where the pain is, and the lower back could be in pain for other
reasons then cancer, that's a source of problems for a lot of
people. My mom's had back problems since her early 20's and has had
to undergo several surgeries for it. Over all I still feel very
positive about things.

hi all - new member

2007-09-17 00:13:33

Dear all,
can i join to this group?
firstly sorry for my english language if not good.
im rustiawan from indonesia. i join to this group purely just for supporting
people in this group who had breast cancer to through her life more joyfull.
i do this because i miss to make my best friend happy at her last life (please
dont ask me to tell about this.....it make me sad).
anyway...
i just wanna permission to entry this group and make some `light` here..... if
youre all dont mind :-)
respecfully,
ivan rustiawan

.. trimming posts

2007-09-16 22:22:01

when I see a response without the post it's referring to and don't
have a clue what the poster is talking about!
OK, up above what I am writing here, you are saying that you are
driven crazy by people who eliminate the entire post that they are
replying to because you don't know what they are referring to. I
agree with this 100%. In a group that generates THIS volume of
emails, it is next to impossible to try to remember every single
thing you have read.
Yet down below what I am writing here, you are saying that you have
to scroll thru 'posts' to get to mine. I have never left multiple
posts on anything I have sent unless it absolutely had to have 2 to
make my point which I think happened one time so far. Normally,
everything I send in reply to anyone else has what the person was
asking or saying above what I am posting ONLY so that it can remind
the reader of WTF I am talking about when I send a post 2 or 3 days
after the person sent the question to me because by 2 days later, the
subject has changed at least 60 times. I didn't miss your point at
all. I leave what I leave so that someone doesn't come up on my post
and wonder what I am babbling about. The question I am answering is
right there, on top, reading into my reply, like a conversation.
People that just 'put a response at the top' are just not caring to
scroll down and delete up which I just felt was common courtesy to
everyone else in here who is coming along later and reading the new
subject in all the emails. Funny thing is that I was trained about
how to send a neat email by a group of dirty dog groomers and I was
pretty sure that this group was more full of a lot of white collar
professionals. This is probably also coming from the fact that
English turned out to be my strongest subject by the time I escaped
the school system and I'm so old that they actually had typing
courses when I went to school. You just would never have sent a
letter looking this way. I do know this is the internet and there is
no reason to be polite to strangers who we will never meet so I don't
know for sure why it bugs me, it may be because of the dirty dog
groomers or it may be the old typing class.
there response at the TOP of the post, as I am doing now, so when you
open the email the response is right there.....and you put yours at
the BOTTOM of the post, so people have to scroll down through other
posts to read it. Old posts don't matter as much if you don't need
to scroll through them. I am NOT saying that your way is wrong...
only that it's different. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me either
way. I'm just so used to only reading the top of a post that I know
I sometimes accidently delete yours without reading... and then I go
back through my trash to pick out yours so I don't miss anything...
lol
Once it's gone to trash because you assumed you already read it, what
makes you go back to the garbage and pull it out?
guy that I was emailing frequently, and I used to do exactly what you
do.... leave a bit of his email, with my response under it. It
absolutely infuriated him! He would tell me "I know what *I* said, I
only want to read what YOU say!!" I thought his anger was waaaaaaay
out of proportion to the circumstances, so I just didn't write him
anymore. Or anything else either... lol
Oh yes, I know the type, my cousin is one of them and she has quite a
bit more internet experience than I do. If I were straight emailing
you personally, I wouldn't do it the way I do for the group because
we would be one on one and should know what we have emailed to one
another UNLESS you sent me an email that had loads of questions in it
and then I WOULD dissect your email and return it with all your
questions answered in order. But for a group with 500 to 1000
messages per week, I don't feel that it is easy for 100 people to
keep up to speed without a reminder question ahead of a new answer.
Just me thinking again....
Joanne

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] Pet Scan

2007-09-16 17:23:18

Audrey,
Lots of prayers that all results come back negative.
Hugs
Marianne
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Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] dearest ladies

2007-09-16 11:20:27

Rosie,
I am so sorry to hear this. Are you on anything for depression? I will keep you
in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Judy

2007-09-16 01:36:31

Because in Chinese Astrology you are a Rat and the year of the Rat
starts on February 7th (Thank Budda!) and so it is supposed to be a
good year coming for you and other signs who are friends of the Rat.
LIKE ME! Who has had quite a hard Year of Dog and year of Pig!
Joanne

avaston

2007-09-15 22:09:52

hello, I am a breast cancer patient going on 2 years now. I am about to
start a case study on a drug called Avaston. my biggest problem i have
been having is I had a surgery in January and my Radiologist started
radiation within 10 days and now 7 months later I still have an
infection that is resistant so I am on at home antibiotic treatment and
can't start my chemo til it is under control. but hopefully Monday I
will start my chemo.

Phoenix vs. El Paso

2007-09-15 13:22:04

wading pool and lots of shade outside, and a doggie door to come in
whenever they want.
WHAT? What do you mean Not as Hot? What kind of summer temps are for El
Paso??? Is El Paso cooler than San Antonio?? Less Humid than San
Antonio??
Joanne

ROLL CALL/CALENDAR UPDATES

2007-09-15 10:59:49

Hi Sue!
Welcome to the board! How are you feeling after your most recent
surgery?
Your weight loss is fantastic! Congratulations!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/179/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Southern Heat/Rendered Fat

2007-09-14 21:04:06

you would think all that fat would render!!!
That's what I felt like inside my head when I lived and worked in
Phoenix every summer. I would have panic attacks because I would stop
sweating and get clammy and would think that I was going to die every
summer, only worse each year. So that may explain why I worship all my
beloved cloud cover here! It's not so great for hairspray and
everything but that doesn't bug me so much. At least I'm alive.
I was talking to my cell phone tech who was in Ohio earlier today. Some
how we got on the subject of the weather and I told him that it has
been very cold, clear and sunny here for a long stretch of days in a
row and that we are really all not used to this, we are all straining
here because all of our eyes are normally fixed and dilated. He laughed
and laughed.
Joanne
Seattle

Phoenix 122 degrees, June 1990

2007-09-14 20:52:21

my car
Edie, that makes three of us from here that were there on that day. All
i remember was that it seemed like everyone's AC units shut down on our
street EXCEPT ours! Maybe we had the temp a little higher than
aeveryone elses, who knows for sure but the news said all the
compressors burnt out or something.
Joanne

Re: hi all - new member

2007-09-14 17:24:31

Thsnk you maianne for the continued prayers. love ,
sharon
for supporting people in this group who had breast cancer to through
her life more joyfull.

Lisa

2007-09-14 08:56:25

I am so sorry to hear about your Mom. She will be missed. I will keep
your family in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne

Cymbalta and Delayed Release

2007-09-14 07:14:04

Just a comment on delayed release pills and Dr's. I go to an allergist, a
reumatologist (SP?), an orthopedic surgeon, my wl surgeon, and I have a PCP.
(guess where my money goes each month!!) My point is, I can't tell you how
often they have prescribed time-release pills to me. I was on a time release
allergy pill for 3 months before I discovered it was time release. The Dr was
wondering why it wasn't working and giving me heck for NOT taking it (I was
taking it). Sometimes I think I have gotten better info here than from my
Dr's. Our combined opinions, experiences, and research really add up!! Naomi

Re: off topic...long

2007-09-13 16:12:46

*HUGGGGGGGGGGS* San, I'm so sorry you have had to endure all of this
in your life. I truly hope that by getting this out will help you.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/179/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Lisa and Sharon

2007-09-13 10:54:56

Lisa I just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss. I find it hard
sometimes with these sites when people who post on them pass away. You
just hope so hard that everyone will be okay.

bones

2007-09-13 08:10:00

Will guys I had my bone scan and it confirmed my belief that the spot
in my neck was a false positive on the pet scan. However else where,
where I've allready been hit with cancer in the bones the cancer has
decided to act up again. The good news is they ran a cat scan on my
head and found that, that was okay and I don't have cancer anywhere
but in the bones now. The doctor feels that since the gemzar worked
so well with me, and since this problem including the tumor marker
raising (another test confirmed that it had raised even more, and it
wasn't due to an infection. It's in it's 70's now)didn't seem to
start tell I missed a month of chemo that we should just continue on
it. I have a little concern since my tumor marker did raise a little
before I took a month off, but I had also missed a couple of chemo
sessions prior to that aswell, due to some gas related problems (my
other place I use to go to was so far away I couldn't afford to go to
chemo with the gas prices being what they are at times, I'm so glad I
found a great onc. closer to home), so maybe that could've attributed
to that, well see. So in light of all that has happened I still need
chemo, it's not gone like I thought. The doctor has decided to
attack aggresivly the sickness that comes after I get chemo, which
includes giving me a stronger nasea medicine and a steriod. But I
feel so much better today then I have after other treatments. My
getting sick was one of the reasons I stopped going in for chemo, it
would get so bad it would send me to the emergency room and the chemo
just annialated my immune system, so despite the raise in cancer
activity which can be beaten again I'm glad I took the time away from
it, I needed to recoup. I guess it's time to start meditating again,
takeing my supplements, and eating better. I'm a little depressed
about the news I was of course hopeing the prior tumor marker and pet
scan where completely mistaken with the sighns of cancer. I am
comforted though by the fact that it was wrong about the spot in the
neck and that the cancer is gone from my muscles and my liver. So
I'm just going to keep on fighting the cancer in my bones until
that's gone and takeing the pain medication until (it's been causing
me pain) that goes away. It won't be long now. I got this great
bird from the Teresa Holden Breast Cancer Foundation and a wonderful
lady named Linda Biggie. She's an umbrella cockatoo named Coconut,
she's two years old and adorable. I've wrote a huge post so I will
write more about her later. I hope everyone is doing okay. Parvin
I'm concerned about you, I haven't seen a post from you in awhile.
Love you guys your my ladies of strength.
Audrey

Re: I'm like a "normal" person

2007-09-13 05:49:07

Hey, Ally - that's fantastic! I still feel very weird going on the
normal size section of Walmart or Fashion Bug. Someone even told me
I didn't have to go to those stores anymore to buy clothes. Ummm...
so where else do you shop, I said?! *LOL* I have no clue!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/179/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: Barbara W.'s Surgery, 1/28/2008, 12:00 am

2007-09-12 19:41:45

Good luck with your surgery, Barbara!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/179/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] dear kathy

2007-09-12 08:57:11

Parvin,
Sounds like you had a nice trip. Post some pictures if you can. I will continue
to keep you in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Lizanne - knee exercises

2007-09-12 08:05:09

Pat,
As I recall, you and your beloved sister don't speak. So anything
you swear on your sister doesn't hold much water.
Second, I got the shoulder theray exercises today. I have a question
about one of them. These are the instructions and your notes...
. Stand with left hand on wall, hand backward
. Slowly TURN BODY outward until a stretch is felt across chest
. Slowly turn neck to right until a strtch is felt down the front of
arm.
Special Instructions....DO NOT TURN your body when doing this
exercise.
So, do I turn my body or not?
Thank you so much for this information. I will practice these
tonight and as often as your instructed.
Lizanne

audry and lisa

2007-09-12 03:57:27

keep that positive going, audry.
lisa, my prayers and thoughts go to you and your family.
god bless to all,
rosie s

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Commitment

2007-09-11 14:46:36

ABSOLUTELY!!! like i said. . i WILL NEVER BE 200 ANYTHING AGAIN!!!
YEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW170**GW125-130

It is that time of the year again

2007-09-11 08:32:26

and the group that attends Races for the Cure(R) around the country
are getting ready to pack and travel to St. Petersburg, Florida for
the race there on Oct. 7. If you want to join us, we would love to
have you. And if you live in Florida, please try to join our group.
We have a new name for our team this year but have not finalized it
yet. Jeana or I will let you know the new name as soon as we make the
final decision. Doris in Louisiana

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] good news for Rosie re faslodex

2007-09-11 06:23:20

Hi Rosie,
I had faslodex for 19 months. The only problem I found with this was the build
up of base material. The drug base is oil and doesn't disperse too well, so I
ended up with raised red areas ~ the makers warn of injection site problems but
seem to play it down somewhat. I had alternate buttocks injected but over the
months the hard lumps built up until I was pretty tender in both areas and my
nurse had to ask if she could inject somewhere else ( as I was on a clinical
trial a certain protocol had to be observed) and I was able to have the upper
thighs injected alternately. Also in the thigh the base seemed to disperse
better maybe because the muscles are used more frequently by walking that it was
better all round.
This meant that my poor rear end got less build up and a rest and eventually
came good. I got to the stage where I was dreading the injections ~ I think you
will find that the monthly shots are bigger than the separate ones at the
beginning. And they do nip a bit towards the end of the shot so prepare yourself
and find a good position to sit or stand. I leant on the window sill for the
rear shots and sat for the thigh shots.
Regarding side effects ~ all quite good really. My hair thinned a tiny bit but
was thin from the previous AI. I have been off faslodex about a year now and on
Aromasin and my hair has thickened up. I also noticed on faslodex that I slept
less, but no vomiting, no nausea, no apetite changes, not very much joint pain,
certainly less than other AIs. Generally I felt good on it. And it knocked back
some of the sites but eventually I became resistant to it and had to change
drugs.
I have BC mets to the bone and have since 2001 and have been through the range
of AIs, next I go on chemo, something I have not had before.
Good luck with the drug I am sure you will respond well to it ~ my opinion,
despite the 'toosh' problems is that it's a good drug, probably the best AI I
have had for attacking sites. (AI = aromatase imhibitors)
LOL Velvet
r1fefe <r1fefe@...
pet scan showed no other tumors but the ones in my right lung.
received two shoots of faslodex in my toosh, and will go again in two
weeks, after that once a month.
is any one here on faslodex, my dr told me that ladies are doing very
well on it, for up to three year.
god bless,
rosie s

Medic Alert

2007-09-10 22:03:13

This hasn't been brought up in quite a while so I thought I would
mention it. I will need help from others as I haven't done this yet.
Once you have your surgery it is a good idea to get a medic alert
bracelet or necklace. I forget what it is supposed to say and where to
order one, but I know if I get the subject started, someone else will
have more details. The one thing I do know is that it should look like
a medic alert bracelet or necklace, otherwise it could be mistaken for
just regular jewelry.
Lizanne
Maryland
Open RNY 8/17/07
251/180/125

Butting in

2007-09-10 15:38:30

Sharon,
You have my permission to butt in at anytime. I understand how most
of us suddenly relate to the post somehow and then add to it, whether
they are being addressed or not. On the oldtimers messages I have no
problem with doing that. I will be more conscientious when a new
member posts so I don't hurt anyone's feelings.
Lizanne

Re: It is that time of the year again

2007-09-10 12:57:56

The name of the team is "Cliff's Clan" (4BC Survivors) in memory of
one of our ladies' husband who passed away this year.

infection

2007-09-10 04:10:20

hello, I am new to the group. I have had BC succesfully treated on my
left side, but now have areas on my right side to be treated, but the
Docs can't seem to get this infection under my left arm from surgery
under control. I now have a giant hole under my arm and I can't start
treatment til it is closed. It has been open for 4 weeks. Any
Suggestions?

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] New here / Thanks Marianne

2007-09-09 23:31:57

I'm going to keep looking and asking until I find a way. Thank you
for welcoming me and thank you for your prayers.
Hugs back,
Kathy

dearest ladies

2007-09-09 23:25:32

thank you all for your best wishes, regarding my son.
sharon, my prayers go out to you and your family, for the lose of your
mom.
bless you all,
rosie s

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 5k update.

2007-09-09 09:00:58

I understand that, there is a park near my house that has over 10 miles of
trails in the woods with allot of hills. I LOVE that place, I don't put
anything in my ears, I like to loose myself in the sounds of nature and
what's eating at me, working on any issues I may have going on. In fact
it's going to be warmer today (we may even hit 32, yoohoo), so I may put my
boots on and do a lap around the lake (2.3 miles), I walk though, maybe one
day a few pounds from now I'll try jogging.
Anyways, congrats on your run.
Edie

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] infection

2007-09-09 07:33:10

How about a wound care specialist? I will keep you in my prayers.
Hugs
Marianne
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Re: dearest ladies

2007-09-09 05:37:44

Dear Rosie, thank you for the prayers for the loss of my mom. Love,
Sharon

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] clothin

2007-09-08 21:32:42

I feel like you Lora, I've lost over 50 lbs and I'm still wearing all my
same clothes while that's financially great, I'd really like to get into
some old, smaller clothes I have in other closets around the house. I
understand the whole idea about surface area, and sizes dropping, but still
mentally, I'd like to have the need for smaller clothes.
Congrats on almost making the century club, you must be feeling great !!!
You'll be there before you know it.
Edie

What weight is right?

2007-09-08 12:07:21

Lisa,
One of our problems is that we don't know what weight is right. And
is the weight a doctor picks really right for us? There was a link
that Pat sent that not only has a BMI calculator by sex and height,
it also stated how many others with these same statistics were either
thinner or fatter than us. I thought that might be good until I
actually used a real person. My brother, yes him again, is currently
about 205, 47 YO and 6" tall. According to the calculator the
heaviest he should be is 175 lbs to be "normal". But at that weight
I beleive that 77% of men with those statistics would be heavier than
him. I don't remember the exact % and can't find the link again.
That didn't make sense....he should weigh 175 lbs but 77% of similar
men are obese? No that can't be right.
So what is right? I was thinking right would be when I still had
meat covering my bones, but could actually feel the bones under my
skin. No actually boniness showing except my collar bones and maybe
cheek bones. Definately no chest or back bones, that looks very
scarey. Anyone else have an idea?
The other thing to consider is the re-distribution of fat after our
loss. At first some of our lower extremities may still appear too
plump, but might change when the fat re-distributes. So that is
another variable. I am with Lisa, give me some idea of how you will
tell when you have hit the correct weight.
Lizanne

Re: Need a WLSF &amp; S Angel

2007-09-08 06:37:24

Hi Joanne,
I would give going online a try. I can quickly scroll from one post
to the next and get caught up pretty fast, even though I'm not on all
the time (especially during the week).
I do understand about not getting stuff done - with my husband sick,
everything has fallen to my shoulders for the last month. Laundry,
cleaning, dishes, cooking, taking care of my son, etc etc etc. Plus
I work 1000 or so hours (yes, this is an exaggeration)... it's
crazy! I just make sure I get all of that other stuff done first
before I sit down to do this. I need this group to keep me on track
and to keep my mental health state in check. If I don't come here, I
can feel a bit off-kilter, so I make the time to do it.
Try to have a good day today!!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/179/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Happy Birthday Lizanne! - knee pain

2007-09-07 21:40:34

Lizanne, you should have told me about the knee pain too... I could have sent
knee exercises too. Do you know what the problem is? Is the cartilage gone, or
is just from the weight? Losing more will definitely help... but I can give you
some therapeutic exercises too.
Pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Thank you Darlene,
This year almost has to be better than last year. So far I am
healthier and lighter. I only have my achy knees left and my PCP has
not taken me completely off my BP meds, but he should. He has
lessened the dose greatly, so that now my BP averages out to be about
106/61. As I get close to the end of the prescription, I will stop
taking it and take my BP every day to see if taking a BP makes sense
or is it just an old habit. The knee pain will never go away. I had
hoped that it would lessen, but so far I have not noticed much of a
change. I have only lost 67 lbs. so maybe after the next 60 I'll see
something. I realise that they won't get cured by losing weight, but
I thought I would feel some improvement.
You are at the stage that I think I am just about getting over. The
stage where everything revolves around food. All the planning, and
reading labels, trying new foods, figuring out if you have had enough
protein. You are right, so much to think about and it all revolves
around food. I am beginning to move past that and I am 5 months since
surgery.
Your face looks a lot thinner in your after picture. I believe that
most of us lose weight from the top down, so you just have to be
patient, but the "thinness" will reach your belly. That is where we
need to lose because of all the statistic showing that the larger the
waist, the bigger the chance of heart issues. Keep up the good work,
and I am sure we will be rewarded for our efforts.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Is this loving and supportive?

2007-09-07 17:30:40

Terri-
I don't see anything unsupportive in what I sent to you, and I removed your post
because I felt it would be hurtful to those in the group that did reach out to
you and offer you support.
I'm not going to waste time in trying to defend myself. I reached out to you as
did many others. You lashed out in anger over a simple mistake.
If you are here for care and support please feel free to stay because that is
what we are here for. If not then please feel free to do what you feel is best
for you.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Margie in Montana freezing

2007-09-07 13:05:14

Margie,
We were talking about you just yesterday. Remember that list of "if
you lost this amount of weight, it is equal to.....?" One of the
items is a small bail of hay, which I think is at the 50 lb mark.
The next item is an air conditioner. I was surprised that a bale of
hay weighs that much. If so, it must be fun watching those cowboys
throw those bails onto the truck. I think I could spend the day
watching that, especially if it's hot and they have to take their
shirts off. Oh my....I better stop right now.
Sounds like you are pretty busy. Have you heard anymore about your
disability case?
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Shortening message

2007-09-07 08:26:11

Lizanne, (better, see I can learn :o))
I know I'm horrible at addressing people, I don't have a clue why, I'll try
to work on that, sorry. As far as deleting the previous post, it's the only
way my automatic signature survives. For some reason when I hit reply (I
get messages to my e-mail address), my signature goes to the bottom of the
page, (see the bottom of this reply) so the only way I can use it is to
delete everything between my post and my signature. I've asked my hubby

new chemo and scans

2007-09-06 23:48:31

Great news my heart is in good shape and my brain scan came back with
no worries. The chemo I'm on now is Doxil, and it's a neon peach
color, wich is pretty cool.

Re: What you have lost

2007-09-06 23:38:22

According to this, I have finally lost my spare tire! LOL!
So why do I still have all this excess weight hanging on for dear
life????????
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 20.9 lbs.

Dear Group...

2007-09-06 17:50:07

As many of you know, I started this group because some of us were kicked out of
another group. I felt that, at that time, it was important that we all continue
to have a place to go to for support.
I was the first one to say that I had never done anything like this and that I
had no idea what I was doing. I still don't apparently.
I want to say first of all that running this group is very rewarding for me,
however it is also a challenge. As many of you know, I am working 50+ hours a
week, traveling, I've had 2 people very dear to me lose parents recently, I'm
trying to carry a full load in school and I'm planning my wedding, which is now
less than 3 months away. On top of all that I'm dealing with some pretty
terrible depression and grief due to the after effects of this surgery. I'm
stretched unbelievably thin right now, and I can't say for certain that I'm
doing the best job I could possibly do for all of you.
The events of this morning are weighing heavily on my mind. It was suggested to
me by someone privately that I am the reason people are leaving this group. I
wasn't really aware of a lot of people leaving, but perhaps in my current
frenzied state I just didn't have an opportunity to really notice.
I love each of you, and I honestly don't know what I would've done without your
support in the last months. I don't even really know what the point of this
post is. I'm struggling with my own doubts and insecurities today I suppose. I
hope that those of you reading this do look at this group as a place you can
come to for love, care and support. It hurts me to lose a member because they
didn't feel they were handled properly and treated with care. It especially
hurts me when I feel like I am going out of my way to care for people, at the
expense of my own personal time, and I am then accused of being a horrible
person.
Blah...I don't really know what else to say.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Visiting my daughter

2007-09-06 03:31:25

Today I went to visit my daughter for the first time in a month.
She saw the bump on my chest and asked if that was something they
had put in me, I explained to her no that it was the bone pushed up
from the cancer under it. She asked if they could push it back
down, and I thought that was so funny! She really enjoyed me being
eyelashless. Not in a mean way, it was just so wierd to her, she
just got a kick out of it.
She broke down crying on me several times, and I gave in to the
tears once (I try not to, to be strong for her). It's hard to be so
optimistic, to say everything will be okay when I'm starting to hurt
a little more. I don't know if the pain is from the cancer or from
just getting older, but it's scarey! Otherwise I feel fine! The
Doxil tends to make me get hot easier, and I feel a lot more
withdrawn and less patient, but I don't feel the lack of energy that
I did on Taxil or whatever it was I was takeing, I can't remeber the
name now! Insomnia isn't such a problem on it, and getting up in
the morning seems harder, but once I have finally snapped awake I'm
up with no problems. My balance has been really off today. Anywho
just wanted to say hi to everyone. I'd like prayers of peace for my
daughter and that she finds the Lord. Thanks Ladies. Doris I hope
you're doing o kay and not haveing problems with pain. Parvin I'm
so glad your lungs are clearing up and I hope your move goes
smoothly.

Re: [Stage IV Breast Cancer] Digest Number 1307

2007-09-06 02:30:52

Sharon
It doesn't matter their age or our age, losing a mother is very difficult...I
lost both parents the same year, and although it was difficult losing my father,
it was so much worse when my mother died...like losing a part of myself. I think
the mother-daughter relationship is just a stronger bond--more volatile at
times, but also harder to let go of...How wonderful that she did have
ninety-three years!!!!
My thoughts are with you.
Marian

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hi Lora

2007-09-05 19:31:12

Hi Lora, I just wanted to also say hi and that I see you here. Very happy to see
you still with us. Anyway just wanted to say hello and that I'm thinking of you.
stay strong
Judy --- NEW YEAR, NEW US!
"Everything Is Easier With Friends"
"Be Blessed In All Your Steps"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
262