Re: [Morgellons] re kids w/ morgs and morg vaginal issues vs "herbal ed's salve"

2007-11-30 23:31:58

OK, great! Now this is helpful. I will both use and
pass on the info.
I am talking to another parent over the phone who has
a 13year old daughter with the same yeast infection
problem secondary to Morgellons and she knows others
with the same,(seems common in kids with morgs). In
the past my daughters infections would clear up in a
day or two with the use of zinc oxide cream. I will
now be prepared with herbal ed's salve incase the
condition worsens.........
I hope the other Mom who posted reads this because I
forgot to mention the zinc oxide and to suggest as
was suggested to me to find a lymes literate Doc. I
did take that advice, and I do take advice when it is
good. I did find a Dr. who sees lymes (although still
a little blind to morgellons) and is able to relate to
me and my symptoms without thinking I'm nuts. Just so
sensitive with this horrible situation that anything
less then supportive I find abusive.
I am also very aware every day, minute, and second
that this Morgellons infection in both my daughter and
me makes my situation very delicate/fragile. Wish I
could forget.
Thank-you again for the supportive information.
j

Re: [Morgellons] Concerned

2007-11-30 17:56:48

I understand bout somethings being important to you in regards to your being a newbie.

I once had the same prob only to be slammed here by a certain female who made me look like some rambeling idiot and with no compassion I made the mistake being it was my 1st time to mail her and one other one.

I had much good info even from our Senator who is a family friend told us since its election time to bombard the congress with mail.

As I was told 8yrs ago.

I was them slammed, never to care if I ever came back because being new I had no idea on here what to do.

In ways Im still learning and finding that what one person here said to do was just be a big mouth that way you get heard she did it with class to me on here and even left out of resepect to me some of what I had mailed her in private.
I also want to say since was a nurse, the other reason you are having a hard time getting salt tablets is because of ones who use it for drug use to use in a filler postion its the reason many otc meds are now behind counter such as salts tabels, any nasal decon and other different ingredients in otc, ask your pharmacy what they do stock you will be surprised.How I knew was my best friend now gone let me know that its getting out of hand shes now gone and even tho she didn't have this insane parasites with scabs oozing out lympt fluid one day or blood the next she treated me with such love now she is gone guess its the price we pay to live in the Bay area here in my family richy rich house.

Im sorry for all your hurt and feeling so embarrassed it happened to me only being tuff I tended to stand back read all the hard work that niels does for us all.

Found out the one person who slammed me was in some dating service I use to work on found that strange so knew this person just doesn't have it bad yet. It will hit in time all will get it if they don't do something bout it except lol sure the gov knows bout it and like one said ,"There isa cure for aids, cancer only if they come out with a cure how many will be out of work?"

To me if you give up your car, can't get your surgery to your others diseases for me its ovarian cancer which has grown from being so weak or scabs so bad that your told ,"Oh better head to a dr and then come back,will do your surgery then." lmao ya right who and where:).

I grew frustrated till I just sat back now and then I will come and do as was told be a big mouth as I am being right now no hate pls to the one who maybe had no clue how bad you will get if you up and gave your car away, have to be out of the home you grew up in because the male here is very abusive so you try to gather strength to take your mom sneak her out as not to get beat because of dirty police.

Im tired of it all so sit back in hopes my next appt with a non lic dr will give me one med that I took yrs ago for wide body anti fugus it worked then and who knows Im about willing to try anything.

If I don't make it my body is being given to morgie for research only not to Kaiser;forget Kaiser as took my mom to see her dr when told her"Oh its great you have the new funding for morgellons" she looked at me like I was talking another lang.

I had to lol because in training there sorry I wouldn't take my dog to see them:)

My poor cat has it bad and her vet is nuts she keeps on saying my cat has so many miss dx that now who knows if my cat will live being given so many wrong things.

Im sorry on here its hard and maybe when many who are in this little click only please take this in a diff manner not being rude only you leave many of us out and its all bout 5 of you only one that I see who is good is 2 of them Niels and Rita.

Its ok because here you can't find any more anti fugus creme its always out or boric acid, cortizone creme otc no pest sprays always out now days when far back they never had any prob keeping them in stock.

Im trying hard to move to a lessor humidity state because I will not stand one more summer here in a huge 5 bedroom home with no A/C and find out also strange that if anyone looks up mold,meldew and dust mites you will find the same symptoms as morgie in ways.

This year the speicies(morgie) of the ones near our area are so strange that you can't keep up with them maybe its caused by the lack of my habit I use to do daily to keep them under control Im now hiring a comp to clean this smalll room cus two people just can't sit here 24/7 and not have the ones on one person jump or how ever they travel as fast as they can.

I will keep any updated on my appt in May in wait to see if this one very good med will work it rid my yeast infections I was getting weekly back 20yrs ago. I will private you if its better ok Im not here to make you at all feel embarassed or humulated only here we all need to be more compassionate and am waiting to see how others besides Rita who has had this like I have now for 10yrs or so. Only its so bad here that I now sit and wait for my parasites/morgie allerts.

Again Im sorry if any of us treated you with any disrepect. Im here for you ok ? Take care and hugs to you..

Kathy

PS: I did have a huge list I made a mistake when I gave all the information to one on here who slammed me so what if I go on maybe the person didn't know that in time your communication skills will be so screwed up and morgie mood swings don't help.

Please remember if anyone hurts your feeling forget um they are in a way controlling and only acting out because deep inside its one thing they can't control none of us can so wouldnt it be better to all just try to understand each other even if you don't care for someone you never met why take it out on that one person.

Im also a theripist only now Im a nothing wishing I was dead if this is what Im to have my life led to lying up against the walll, can't pay bills, have no friends because when a person is ill sorry they all take off its not there fault only its that they don't know how to help you.

I now will be told or the others will feel like here she goes again her long posts well maybe you sit in a room 24/7 oh ya you get to go to the bathroom your mom is now sneaking you food if your stomach will take it all in the time frame of 9yrs now. Its a blast and strange as it is why did 4 of my friends all at once after reading up in high clerance gov info, all of the sudden left Ca, were all still friends only I understand its high degree of security.

I had always wondered why no one in the gov, congress has yet to get this disease, one singer has it now and as I see it these insane very smart parasites seem to control us.

At this point I sit and do much research, try to come on if someone has been hurt to maybe help them not feel so bad with the way a real support group is ran like AA/NA;etc.

Sorry took my cousin to many meetings per court order no Im not an addict also who knows with all the meds Im being given to keep my pain level down from the cancer among other diseases well maybe I'll be in detox down the road only I don't take much I just try to sit and wait.

I hope this helped you and in the future will mail you.

One good thing is my level of IQ has grown its like my understanding with these parasites are strange Im able to tell if they will bite me or it will be a better day forget the PM here its when 200,000 hatch and find it strange what did they use in the yr they discover these 1600ad or what ever happened to the females in 2000 with scabs all over her face.

I did like the idea of the plastic surgery cus I have 5th stage edema so bad that was going to hit up a dr close by excellent in his field so Im able to get some of this fluid out of my body.

Thanks to whoever didn't make fun of me either who knows maybe the med Im going to try to get will help.

I have salt tablets here in our store would you like me to buy you some why they aren't behind some pharmacy back area is because some aren't aware that they are being used in the drug labs surrounding our homes.

Take care, mail me anytime if you just want someone to listen. Or you want to cry Im here for you ok? take care..

Hugs to you!!!!!!!!
summerbreeze23342 <summerbreeze23342@...

I know I am very new here. And I know this is a support
forum, but I'm worried.
I have seen the price of salt tablets skyrocket and the
FDA is considering removing them from public access all
together. I'm sure this is because people are using them
to treat Lyme, and the FDA does not like people to help
themselves.
This could also happen with other treatments...they could
be "banned" by the FDA.
I'm thinking (and again, I am just a lowly newbie), that
maybe when someone asks about treatment options, a
private email would be more appropriate, and maybe
some treatment options should not be mentioned unless
someone is crying for help (as I was.)
Too much word of mouth could hurt us all.
JMHO

Re: more info from Austin Morgellons Conference

2007-11-30 11:57:17

Excellent reading. Thanks...

Re: Concerned

2007-11-30 06:36:03

Good suggestion. I too believe in being cautious but, try not to be
paranoid...

more info from Austin Morgellons Conference

2007-11-30 04:35:06

http://morgellons-sanctum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=800&start=45&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
This was posted by Cindy Casey (thenmo.org) and is someone's notes, typos and all....
--MORGELLONS DISEASE
1ST ANNUAL MEDICAL RESEARCH CONFERENCE
CHARLES E. HOLMAN FOUNDATIONMAR. 29, 2008 AUSTIN, TEXAS
INTRO CINDY CASEY NURSE PRACTITIONER WITH GINGER SAVELY
4 YRS AGO NOTHING---THEN THEY SPONSORED A RALLY FOR CDC, NOW THE DISEASE AND ITS EFFECTS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN PEER REVIEW JOURNALS AND THE CDC IS FINALLY DOING A STUDY AS ARE WE, AS INDIVIDUALS, ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
DR. RAPHAEL STRICKER ..LYME DISEASE SPECIALIST FROM SAN FRANCISCO
25 YRS. AGO---GRID==GAY RELATED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY BECAME AIDS
NOW IT'S MORGELLONS
A SPECULATIVE
SIR THOS. BROWNE 1674---1692 DRAWINGSFIBERS
MARY LEITAO---BIOLOGIST
MORGELLONSMORE THAN 11OOO THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, ETC.
1. SKIN LESIONS
2. CRAWLING SENSATIONS
3. FIBERS
4. FATIGUE
5. MUSCULOSKELETAL PAIN
6. NEUROLOGICAL SYMPTOMS
7. BEHAVIORAL CHANGES
MOST IN CA, FL, TX...HISTORY OF EXPOSURE TO SOIL, DIRT--ASSOC TO LYME DISEASE
ETIOLOLOGY OF MORGELLONS
BACTERIAL BIOFILSM
NANOBACTERIAL INFECTION
CHEMTRAILS
COLEMBOLA
XENOBACTERIAL DISEASE
DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS
DELUSIONS
DRUG-INDUCED FROMICATION
SCABIES
TROPICAL DERMATOSES
PERFORATING DERMATOSES
EQUAL SEX AND AGE DISTRIBUTIONDIFFERENCES WITH DEL. OF PARISITOSIS
TREATMENT OF MORGELLONS
ANTIBACTERIAL, ANTIFUNGAL, ANTIPARATTIC
LYME TREATMENT REGIME
NO DEFINITIVE CAUSE
INDIVID. ANTIBIOTIC THERAPY
ULTRAVIOLET LAMP WITH 60X CAN SEE TONSSSSTHEY FLOURESCE
FIBERSMADE OF CELLULOSE FIBERS PERHAPS
AGROBACTERIUM IN PLANTS
GRAM-NEGATIVE BACTERIA
UBIQUITIOS COMPONENT OF SOIL MICROFLORA
ONLY ORGANISM
AFFECTS HUMAN CELLS IN VITRO
CAUSES SKIN LESIONS INFECTED INTO IN TO MICE
CATHETER SEPSIS.............
METHODS
SKIN BIOPSY FROM 7 MORGELLONS PATIENTS
WERE SUBJECTED TO HIGH PROBES............
....EXPERIMENTS RESULTS---IDENTICAL TO AGROBACTERIM GENES
AGROBACTERIUM
BUT DOES IT TRANSFORM THEM GENETICALLY?
IT MAY BE INVOLVEED IN THE ETIOLOGY OF M...
FROM KEITH CLAYSTANOTROPHOMONOS---TICKS---CAN THE TICKS BE CARRYING THE AGROBACTERIUM ISOOLATED FROM IXODES TICKS IN CONN.
TELEMERES AND TELOMERASE
ENZYME THAT STICKS TO GENETIC MATERIAL
BORRELIA-IDENTICAL TO TELOMERASE
TELOMERASE ADDS GENETIC MATERIAL TO CHROMOSOMES: ADAPTIVE MECHANISM
SPECULATION
MORGELLONS MAY BE THE FIRST CAUSED BY PLANT LIFE
OR BY TICK BITE TRANSFERRED TO HUMANS
GINGER SAVELY NURSE PRACTITIONER
'MORGELLONS DISEASE: CLINICAL ASPECTS"
A RETROSPECTIVE STUDY OF RANDOM SAMPLING OF PATIENTS
GENDER:
41 WOMEN-3 MEN
ETHNICITY: MOSTLY WHITE IN THIS PART. CROSS SECTION
22-87 MEDIAN AGE 49 N 2.3 YRS,
13 UNEMPLOYED
1 OFFICE JOBS
SUBSTANCE ABUSE
17 OF 44 WERE SMOKERS
18% HAD HISTORY OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE
SITUATIONAL EVENTS PRIOR TO INTIATION OF SYMPTOMS
30%--GARDENING
20%-- DIRTY WATER
15%-- CAMPIMG
SYMPTOMS IN ORDER OF FREQUENCY
98% DISFURING LESIONS
95% CRAWLING, STINGING, BITING...........YADA, YADA...TO
41% HAIR DOESN'T FEEL LIKE REAL HAIR
PERSON TO PERSON CONTAGION
35-44 REPORTED NO AFFECT TO FAMILY
PRESENT IN FAMILIES AFTER SIMULTANEOUS EXPOSURE
HAS TO ENTER THE SKIN
PIX TAKEN AT 60X AND 100X MAGNIFICATION...SHE LIES 30X PERSONALLY
FROM MINOR ANNOYANCE TO FULLY DISABLED
DOES ANYONE SUSPECFTING M... HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?
PARETHESIAS
SAME SENSATIONS BUT NO FIBERS OR LESIONS
ECZEMA--
SKIN MANIFESTAIOTN OF ALLERGY
DRY, FLAKY RED, ITCHY SKIN
DIAGNOSIS
CLINICALBASER ON SYMPTOMS
SKIN AND HAIR MUST BE EXAMINED CAREFULLY USING A WOODS LAMP OR 30X HAND HELD LIGHTED MAGNIFIER---
BIOPSIES ARE NON-REVEALING
CODE691.8
ALMOST ALL TOPICALS WORK FOR A WHILE...ANTI-PRURITICS, SILVADENE
TEGREDERM OR HY-TAPE KEEP LESONS CLEAM WIRTH ANTIBIOTICS
TREATMENT TIPS
IMPORTANT NOT TO ISOLATE ONESELF FROM LOVED ONESPEOPLE NEED TOUCH!
TREATMENT TAKES A ALONG TIMEHAVE FAITH AND PATIENCE
SYMPTOMS USUSALLY INTENSIFY DURING EARLY TREAMENT AND AFTER MED. CHANGES
REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONNECT WITH OTHER PATIENTS DURING TREAMENT!
TAMING THE ITCH MONSTER
ANTI-DEPRESSANT
DOXEPIN
TOPICAL DOXIPINZONALON CREAM
LYRICA has been a god-send for many
NUTRITION
CUTTING OUT REFINED CARBS
LOTS OF RAW GARLIC AND IN DIET (8-9 RAW GARLIC CLOVES A DAY!!?)
NICOMIDE (RX VITAMIN WITH MINERALS THAT HELP SKIN HEALING)
ANTIBIOTIC TREATMENT
TICK-BORNE INFECTIONS MUST BE TREATED WITH
BABESIA/BARTONELLA OFTEN SEEN ALAONG WITH LYME---TREAT BABESIA FIRST
TREATMENT MUST BE AGGRESSIVE TO WORK:
COMBOS OF ANTIBIOTICS, ANTIPARASITICS, ANTIHELMINTICS AND/OR ANTI-FUNGALS...SHE RECOMMENEBD 18 MONTHS OR SO NOW
ANTIBIOTICS-HER PROTOCOL
BIAXIN
MEPRON
CPRO
DOXYCYCLINE
KETEK
BACTRIM DS
PENICILLINPERHAPS
ANTI-PARASITICS
METRONIDAZOLE
TINIDAZOLE
ALINIA
ANTI-HELMINTICS-(DE-WORMERS)
MUST BE INCLUDED AS PART OF REGIMEN
ROTATION IS KEY---TAKE DAILY
CAUSE MASS EXODUS OF FIBERS
STROMECTOL (IVERMECTIN)
ALBENDAZOLE (ALBENZA)
PRAZEQUANTIL ( BILTRICIDE)
MEBENDAZOLE-
MINTEZOLEXTRME NAUSEA
ANTIFUNGALS ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE
GET MONTHLY CBC AND CMP EOSINOPHILA SEEN WITH STROMECTOL
PATIENT MUST TAKE MILK THISTLE AND PRO-BIOTICS
TREATMENT CONSIDERATIONS
TREAT WITH HIGH DOSAGES AND DON'T GIVE UP
ROTATION OF TREATMENTS IS KEYPATHOGEN IS HIGHLY ADAPTIVE
TREATMENTS ARE HIGHLY VARIABLEWHAT WORKS FOR ONE MAY NOT FOR ANOTHER
WHAT ABOUT INSURANCE COVERAGE?
BLUE DOUBLE-CROSSHA-HA
I WANNA GET BETTER OR I WANNA DIESAID THAT BEFORE?
IMPORTANT ADVICE FOR PATIENTS;
1. QUIT SMOKINGIT SUPRESSES THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
2. GET SOME FORM OF EXERCISE
3. GET LOT OF FLUIDSGOOD FOOD
4. DON'T'GIVE UPKEEP THE FAITH
GINGER'S MAIN POINTS
DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES
TREAT HARD-TREAT LONGDON'TGIVE UP
EACH PATIENT'S RESPONSE IS UNIQUE........THEMNO.ORG
RANDY WYMORE PHD-SCIENTIST
RESEARCH DIRECTOROKLA. STATE UNIV.-CENTER FOR HEALTH SCIENCES
WORKED WITH FORENSICS LAB AT POLICE DEPT.
BECAUSE OF DIVERSITY OF SYMPTOMS, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES....UUUHHH--YYEEEAAA
THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT ANY LIVING ORGANISM...THERE'S NO MOUTH, NO REPRODUCTION SYSTEM, NO ELIMINATING FACILITY...
THEY ARE CRYSTALLINE IN NATURE WITH DEPTH AND IRREGULARITY
THE CALLOUS-NOT A PRESSURE CALLOUS
FORMS OVER AND NEAR LESIONS
APPEARS OVERNIGHT
NOT PART OF NORMAL WOUND
DEMIDEX MITESVIRTUALY EVERY HUMAN HAS THEM AROUND THEIR EYES..NO LEGS, NO MOUTH PARTS
GREAT PIX WITH HAIR WITH BRAIDED-APPEAING OBJECTS ASSOC. WITH THE LOWER HAIR SHAFTSEEN IN THE MORGELLONS PATIENT THIS WAS FOCUSED HIGH ...AT .5 MM SPIRALED AND WRAPPED AROUNG..... SIMILAR TO A FUNGUS---FROM OSU-CHS TELEMEDICINE CENTER---PIX ARE GREAT!!!! NO SCARRING IN THER REGIONS PRIOR TO ENVIRONMENTAL DEBRIS-----....DR. CASEY WENT AND USED STERILE FORCEPS---SHOWS THE "USUAL" RENSE TANGLE OF FIBERS
DR. STANINGER CALLS THEM VIRAL PROTEIN ENVELOPES~!
FIBER ANALYSIS
MICROSCOPY
NOT COTTON, HAIR OR ANIMAL
NOT SYNTHETICNO EXTRUSION PATTERNS, NO SHEAR OR CUT MARKS
SOLUBILITY/COLOR STABILITY: NO PIGMENTS OR DYES WERE EXTRACTABLE IN TOLUENE, BENZENE
45% MATCH TO ASTHMA MEDICINE????
SUMMARY OF FIBER ANALYSIS
WE KNOW WHAT THEY THE FIBERS ARE NOTBUT NOT WHAT THEY ARE...
ONGOING GC-MASS SPEC EXPERIMENTS ARE TAKING PLACE.
THE "WHITE SEEDS"DR. CASEY BROUGHT PIX'DR. FERNANDEZKEY RESEARCHER
OSHA WEBSITE--?? WHAT IS HIS CONNECTION BESIDES STUDYING ITDOES HE HAVE IT?
CONCLUSIONS
MORGELLONS FIBERS ARE NEITHER CLOTHING FIBERS NOR ENVRONMENTAL TEXTILES
M.FIBERS ARE FOUND WITHIN INTACT SKIN OF ONLY PUTATIVE M SUFFERERS
M DISEASE IS NOT A PSYCHIATRIC CONDTION
MORE RESEARCH IS NEEDED
DR. GREGORY V. SMITHMD, FAAP, PEDIATRICIAN IN GAINESVILLE
A FELLOW MORGIE/PATIENT/"POLITCAL ACTIVIST"
"NOT JUST A SKIN DISEASE"
INTERFERES WITH ADL---ACTIVIITES OF DAILY LIFE
"MORGIE-CO"---JUST SLEEP FOR 2-3 DAYS GET UP, GO TO THE BATHRM, EAT A LITTLE-SLEEP
MUCUS PRODUCTION IS THICKER
NEUROLOGICALLYABILITIES CHANGE, TWITCHES HAPPEN, SIM. TO ALS, LOU GEHRIG'S DISEASE, CLUMSINESS...PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY, COGNITIVE DISFUNCTION-BRAIN FOG, BEING OVERWHELMED BY TASKS, ADHD BI-POLAR FEELINGS, IF YOUR'E NOT DEPRESSEDYOU'RE IN DENIAL...(WITH THIS DISEASE)
THERE'S NO REASON THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED WITH SUCH DISRESPECT AND LACK OF DIGNITY AS THEY ARE WITH THIS DISEASE.
DEMAND RESPECT!!!
PICK UP PUBLIC HEALTH ALERT NEWSPAPER
ELIZABETH RASMUSSEN PHDLARAMIE, WISCONSIN
DOCTORATE IN CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY
"HOW DERMATOLOGY IS TAUGHT AND PRACTICED:
CONSEQUENCES FOR MORGELLONS SUFFERERS
MOST DRS. AND PATIENTS OF MORGELLONS=UNFORTUNATE MISMATCH
MAJOR FUNCTIONS OF THE SKIN
STORAGE AND SYNTHESIS
EXCRETION
ABSORPTION
WATER RETENTION
PROTECTION: LANGERHANS(?)CRUCIAL IN PROTOECTION IN THE SKIN
SENSATION: NERVE ENDINGS REACTION TO PAIN, HEAT, COLD, ETC.
HEAT REGULATION
AESTHETICS AND COMMUNICATION
WHAT IS A DERMATOLOGIST?
A DR. WHO SPEFCIALIZES IN SKIN CARE PROBLEMS, SKIN, HAIR AND NAILS HEALTHY THROUGHOUT THE LIFETIME...BASICALLY 7 YRS. OF STUDY.
MEDICAL VS. SURGICAL DERMATOLOGY
CHOOSING A SPECIAL....SHE RUNS THROUGH THE LITANY OF COMPONENTS TO BECOMING A DERMATOLOGIST....DEMONSTRATE REPECT, COMPASSION AND INTEGRITYY, A RESPONSIVENESS TO THE NEEDS OF THE PATIENT AND SOCIETY, QUALITY PATIENT CARE
WWW.ABDERM.ORG
WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO KNOW ABOUT:
PRURITIS
PURIGO NODULARIS
FACTITIA
DELUSIONS
NEUROTIC EXCORIATIONS
OTHERE NUEROCUTANEOUS AND PSYCH. DISORDERS
WWW.RWMC.ORG
DERMATOPATHOLOGY
THEY DO SCIENTIFIC DERMATOLOGY
335 SIGNFICANT EMERGING INFECTIOUS DISEASES
WHICH HAVE ARISEN SINCE 1940
HERPES
LEGIONELLA
HANTA BORRELIA
CHRONIC FATIGUE
HEPATITIS
RICKETSIA
AIDS
MORGELLONS
U.N. CHRONICLE 1999
GARDENERS AND LANDSCAPERS (THOSE WORKING WITH SOIL) HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING MORGELLONS
POPULATION-BASED HEALTH STUDIESA RE UNDER RESEARCHED IN DERMATOLOGIST'S EDUCATION
FEW DERMS ARE EVEN AWARE OF EPIDEMIOLOGY
CASE WESTERN RESERVE DERMATOLOGY HAS A NEW CIRRICULUM
COCHRANE SKIN GROUP, AS WELL.
CDC
REMOVED ITS DELUSIONAL PARASITOSIS RE: MORGELLONS WEBSITE IN 2007
INITIATED A WEBSITE ON MORGELLONSWHAT'S IT CALLED?????
ATTITUDES OF DERMATOLGISTS
VITILIGOINDIFFENRT TO THE IMPORTANCE OF TREATMENT
SUICIDE IN HER, PATIENTS
BODY DISORDER, ACNE, OR LONSGSTANDING FACILA SKIN DISORDERS
GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING
40 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ASKED FOR MORE RESEARCH
DR. GREG SMITHBIG ADVOCATE
CDC STUDY
NEGATIVE---WWW.ZBIGATTI.COM ANTOGONISTIC COSMETIC SKINDOC
HARRIET BISHOPPRESIDENT OF TEXAS LYME DISEASE ASSOCIATION
MORGELLONS PATIENT
"STAYING POSITIVE"
ALL HER LIFE SINCE THE 1ST GRADE SHE HAD LYME DISEASE (73 YRS.)
MAJORED IN TEXTILES THEN WORKED FOR THE HEALTH DEPT.
HAS CHILDREN AND 14 GRANDKIDS
CALLOUSES UNDER THE FINGERNAILSDOING GARDENING-- USED CAMPO-PHENIQUE ALOE VERA LEAVES---THE CUTS JUST WENT DEEPERALL KINDS OF DRS. NO AVAILEVEN WENT TO A PSYCHIATRIST IN ANAHEIM WHO DEALT WITH FIBROMYALGIA PATIENTS IN 1995-CONCLUSION: NOT IN YOUR HEAD26 DRS. LATERTHEY NEVER FOUND ONE---THE LESIONS CLOSED BUT AS CALLOUSESHARD AND GLASS-LIKE.
AS OF 2005SAW GINGER SAVELY ON HOUSTON TV
WHAT CAN KEEP YOU CHEERFUL?
FAITH THAT THEY'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT
STAY POSITIVEREACH OUT TO HELP YOURSELF
CARE FOR YOUR WHOLE BODY WITH LOVING ATTENTION
SAY IN THE MIRRORI LOVE AND ACCEPT MYSELF
FEELING GOOD BY DR. DAVID BURNS
DON'T ALLOW IT TO CONSUME US
USE THE AWESOME POWER OF OUR BRAINAS A MAN THINKETH SO IS HE.
LISTEN TO HOW YOU TALK TO YOURSELF--BY LOUISE L. HAYES
A GOOD GAME OF SCRABBLE
CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTSCHANGE YOUR LIFE
4 STEPS TO CHANGING YOUR LIFE
1. DECLARE THAT GOOD IS ALREADY YOURS
2. BELIEVE IT WITH UNWAVERING FAITH
3. FEEL AS YOU WOULD FEELDO WHAT YOU INTEND
4. ACT AS THO' YOUR FANTASY IS NOW FACT
IMAGINATION IS EVERYTHINGIT'S THE PREVIEW OF LIFE'S COMNG ATTRACTION.....EINSTEIN
CHOICES
CHOOSE THE HERBAL ROUTE
CHOOSE THE NON-HERBAL ROUTE
CHOOSE INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE
CHOOSE BALANCE IN OUR LIVESYIN-YANG-WORK-PLAY-YOGA, TAI CHI, THE ART OF LIVINGDAILY DEEP BREATHING AND MEDITATION
WWW.ARTOFLIVING.COM
WWW.EMOFREE.COM
GROW BABY SPINACH ON YOUR DECK and PICK IT EVERY 2 DAYS
EAT ORGANIC AND FRESH
KNOW THAT WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU GET AN INSPIRED THOUGHTACT ON IT.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GRATEFUL FOR.
MARK DARRAH...BS...STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY
RESEARCH DIRECTOR OF DR. CITOVSKY'S MORGELLONS PROJECT
"STRUCTURAL AND MOLECULAR CHARACTERIZATION OF MORGELLONS FILAMENTS AND PARTICLES BY SCANNING ELECTRON MICROSCOPY (SEM), OPTICAL MICROSCOPY AND RAMAN MICROSPECTROSCOPY"
SHOWED MANY PIX SHOWING RED FILAMENTS, BLACK CRYSTALLINE PARTICULAR MATERIAL, RAMAN MICROPSECTROSCOPY SHOWING WAX-LIKE SECRETIONS IN MORGELLON'S TISSUES
NaOH CRYSTALS (ROCKS) ADHERING TO A WAX-LIKE SUBSTANCE FROM A M LESION-- LYE SOAP (SODIUM HYDROXIDE- NaOH)
NaCL (SALT) ROCKS ADHERING
CONCLUSIONS: MATERIALS (MINERALS, VARIOUS EXOGENOUS FIBERS) AS WELL AS HAIR MAY BE TRAPPED BY WAX-LIKE SUBSTANCE SECRETED FROM THE LESIONS
THUS THE WAY SUBSTANCE MAY BE THE INITIAL MANIFESTATION OF THE CONDITION
AGROBACTERIUM (TO TRANSFER DNA INTO ANY KINGDOMPLANTS' ANIMALS, ) CAME UP AGAIN ---HE SEEMED AGGRAVATED TO DEAL WITH IT)
DAVID GIBBS--- MSCDRP
"SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS AS RELATED TO MORGELLONS DISEASE"
HE IS A SOCIAL SEC. DISABILITY SPECIALIST CLAIMS SPECIALIST.......
IF IT PROHIBITS YOU FROM SUBSTANTIAL GAINFUL ACTIVITYIF YOU CAN EARN $941 A MONTH YOU ARE NOT DISABLED.
DO YOU HAVE A MEDICAL CONDTION THAT WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF WORK FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS?
RELATE YOUR DIAGNOSIS TO HOW IT IMPAIRS YOU...(MIND YOU , HE SAIDDIAGNOSISYOU NEED TO BE DIAGNOSED WITH M...)
FILE THE CLAIM---THE LONGER YOU TAKE TO FILE THE CLAIM, THE LONGER IT WILL TAKE TO PROCESS......AND DOCUMENT YOUR SYMPTOMS.....DESCRIBE HOW IT LIMITS YOUR FUNCTION. THEY WILL ONLY LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE TOLD THEM...SPINE PROBLEMS,DERMATITIS WITH NON-HEALING LESIONS
Q & A PERIOD
WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO KEEP THE MORGELLONS EDUCATION MOVING FORWARD?
MORE PEER REVIEW JOURNALS HENCE DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT...PROMOTING IT'S AWARENESS IN WHATEVER WAY---OPRAH, NEWS SPOTS, ETC.
THERE'S AN AGROBACTERIUM INFECTION REMEDY AND IT'S BEEN DONE IN PLANTSCAN IT BE DONE IN HUMANS?
AGROBACTERIUM RADIO BACTER(?)TAKES OUT THE TUMOR INDUCING ABILITY---CAN THEY NEUTRALIZE---KA 4 OR KA106 POSSIBLY COULD WORK IN HUMANS....HHHMMMM! (NOTE TO SELF: EXPLORE THIS ONE)
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CLEAN IT ALL OUT ENVIRONMENTALLYAS IT COMES TOGETHER SEEMINGLY WITHIN YOUR BODYCC
BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH CHILDREN?
ANTIBIOTICS AND ANTIPARASITICSBUT NOT AS BOLDLYNO ANTIHELMINTICS
ANY KNOWN OF ANIMALS WITH MORGELLONS?
YES...IN FACT, OUR VETS CAN BE GREAT RESOURCES FOR US AS WELL.
ANY ASSOCIATION WITH HERPES OR OTHER DISEASES THAT ARE CHRONIC?
ANYTHING THAT SUPPRESSES THE IMMUNE MAKES IT MORE LIKELY FOR SOMEONE TO COME UP WITH IT. MONITOR THE LIVER FUNCTION. POSSIBLY ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER VIRUSES.
(HONDURAS"WORM JUICE"--VARIANCE ON VERMOX OR IVERMECTIN?)
TREAT BABESIA FIRST FOR TICK-BORNE DISEASE
BEST LYME TEST
THE WESTERN BLOT AT I-GENEX IN PALO ALTO 800-832-3200)
WHERE TO GO FOR TREATMENT?
UUUUHHHHHHHHH
WHAT IS THE CDC'S ROLE IN ALL OF THIS AND ARE THEY DRAGGING THEIR FEET?
THEY WERE FIRST INFORMED IN 1995....THEY ARE SLOW IN THE STUDY BUT THE PATIENTS THEY CLAIM TO WANT TO SEE HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN YET.
IS THE DELUSIONAL DIAGNOSIS EVENTUALLY A POSSIBLE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT?
WHO KNOWSPROBABLY NOT--ONLY PROBABLY IF THERE WAS HARM DONE BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS CONTRAPRESCRIBED.
ARE THE BLACK SPECS ALIVE?
ALIVE, ACTIVATED, BY-PRODUCT?
NEW STUDY WITH AGROBACTERIUM IS HAPPENING WITH MARK DARRAH/DR. CITOVSKY
HOW MUCH $ WOULD IT TAKE TO FIGURE THIS OUT?
ACC. TO RANDY WYMORE, ABOUT $3.4 MILLION FOR 4 YR. 4-800 PATIENTS, LAB DIAGNOSTICS, ETC. ACC. TO RANDY WYMORE
QUESTIONS?...MINE
-WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO FIND OUT GEORGE BUSH' PROTOCOL?HE HAS ACCESS TO ALL THE MILITARY SECRETS AND MONEY, HE GOT ALL THE VACCINES/FLU SHOTS THE SOLDIERS DID IN THE EARLY 2000 S (AS I DIDWHICH IS WHERE I CONTRACTED IT)
-NANOTECHNOLOGYIT'S EXTREMELY POSSIBLE IT'S HOW WE GOT THIS ---CAN IT BE THE ANSWER TO FINDING HOW WE CAN GET RID OF IT?
-ELECTROMAGNETIC THERAPY -- FAR INFRA RED THERAPY?
-WHY ARE THEY PUSHING VACCINES SO MUCH?
-PATHOGENS? CHEMTRAILS? WATER? IS ANY MORE KNOWN?
-IS ANYBODY OVERSEEING THE CDC STUDY THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE A TRUTHMONGER?

re kids w/ morgs and morg vaginal issues vs "herbal ed's salve"

2007-11-29 16:45:09

here's one potential all-natural topical treatment for kids which shouldn't result in child-protective service actions or accusations of "Munchausen's by Proxy" against parents of sick kids attempting to help them, by people claiming to be "looking out for our kids"....
http://www.herbaled.org/THM/Compounds/salve.html
Herbal Tampon: For intravaginal application smear salve onto the top two-thirds of a tampon and then insert into vagina. Leave in for 4 to 6 hours (best done while sleeping) and then take at least a 16-hour break before applying a fresh herbal tampon. Before treatment a water/vinegar or herbal douche may be useful. If long-range therapy is needed use herbal tampon once per day, five days per week, three weeks per month. Do not use during menses.

HERBAL ED'S SALVE
Soothing Emollient Vulnerary

Comfrey root (Symphytum officinale)
Calendula flower (Calendula officinalis)
Chickweed herb (Stellaria media)
Plantain leaf (Plantago lanceolata)
Mullein leaf (Verbascum thapsus)
* St. John's Wort flowering tops (Hypericum perforatum)

Extracted & concentrated into a base of:
Olive Oil, Bee's Wax & Bee's Propolis

* Fresh Dried

Action: This herbal salve is a classic example of a topical vulnerary, an agent that promotes the healing of wounds to the skin. Its actions are antiseptic, anti-inflammatory, soothing and analgesic, antipruritic (relieves or prevents itching), and it stimulates the regeneration of aged and damaged tisues and their blood vessels.
Uses: Indicated in all cases where the skin or other epithelial tissues are wounded, irritated, inflamed or aged: cuts, abrasions, all types of burns (thermal, sun, radiation, and chemical burns), frostbite, trauma and bruises, ulcerations and erosions, diaper rash, contact dermatitis, aged and weathered skin, chapped skin and lips, hemorrhoids, irritation or injury of labial and vaginal tissues, traumatized eyes, etc.
Dose: All wounds should be cleaned and disinfected before applying salve. Thermal burns and sunburns should be "cooled down" with cold water or ice packs before applying salve. Topical: Apply salve to troubled area with a mild rubbing action until salve melts, or smear salve onto sterile gauze and tape to area. Can be applied several times per day according to condition. If gauze sticks to wound, moisten with sterile water or hydrogen peroxide before trying to remove. Salve can be removed from wound with warm water and non-perfumed soap.

Conference

2007-11-29 10:49:46

If I were in your shoes, I would email each other privately. I am
sorry to butt in. It's just that I would not want anyone to get into
trouble. I know Rita is not always present to overlook our posts,
and I don't think she has a legal responsibility to do so, but be
careful, please. I have read horror stories elsewhere.

treatment recommendations by Drs. Kolb and Overman

2007-11-29 08:24:10

Hi there - I had asked if anyone had tried any of the recommendations
made by either of these Drs - and had a response back that they were
not familiar with the recommendations. I apologize... I did not
realize the group did not have this info. So, I'm posting it for your
review.
I have started to implement the ideas by Dr. Kolb and I'm in the
process of filling out a form for Dr. Overman to review. I may make
the 8 hour drive to his office in the near future.
Dr. Kolb is a plastic surgeon in Atlanta. She has a number of
Morgellons patients - I believe she feels as a result of leaking
breast implants causing excess silicon (did I spell that right) in
the body and the fiber disease to start. I've called her office and
there is a doctor there that they are setting up phone consultations
with - starting this week. I'm not sure what the details are - but
I'll let you know when I do. The recommendations are at
MorgellonsHope.com
under the "treatment" section. The recommendations are holistic and
there are a number of suggestions and links to other helpful
products/sites. This is the link...
http://www.morgellonshope.com/content/view/1252/46/
Dr. Overman has written a book (which I ordered from Amazon) called
Overcoming Parasites Naturally, Professional Edition. I found out
about him on a community called curezone.com - an excellent site if
you've not been there. Anyway, his book has information about all
kinds of parasites - probably more than I want to know about. He uses
muscle testing (kinesiology) to determine the basis for people's
illnesses and has developed treatments that include electromagnetic
devices and herbal remedies. His site is www.drovermannd.com and the
related site is www.precisionherbs.com . In speaking with his office,
Dr. Kolb has sent a number of her patients to see him directly. He is
located in Ohio. You can see him in person or work with him remotely
or both. Also, he treats pets.
I hope this info helps and gives you some ideas to work with.
Take care, Katherine aka FlowerDogsMom

Conference

2007-11-28 22:12:45

Hi Tanya,
I have a daughter age 6. In October of 2004 there was
lice going around my daughters school. When I combed
her hair with a lice comb I found black dots, also saw
them on the sheets and places where she had been
playing. For so long I thought maybe we had lice. Did
all the txs, washed clothes and sheets after one use.
Cleaned like crazy. I started feeling bites and
crawling. we did go the Dr. several times for this
stronger meds ordered with no results . No one ever
saw lice in our heads, I just thought because lice was
going around the school like wild fire that that was
what we had. I think if you want the full story it
should be continued at another time. At present we are
both more under control. My daughter does not feel
crawling but once in a while a hair or small black
fibers will come from her skin, after the nightly bath
and hair(with a fine toothed) comb. She does feel
things when they emerge and will point me to them. We
both are taking MMS and Nutrasilver. No sugar, low
carb, and lots of dark greens. She did get a yeast
infection which I thought was strange with little
sugar in the diet. She has gotten sore in the vaginal
area before and it passes in a day or two. She does
not get lesions. I have had two the size of quaters
that took weeks to go. She is doing well in school,
but we did pass a period when she was fatigued and
sick,(me too).Changing the diet and taking silver
helped. Mood swings are part of it and we have them.
If you would like to exchange more info re children
and these strange signs of infection, I would be
willing. The Doctors don't really see this. I have
taken my duaghter to the childrens hospital Infectious
disease dept. . The resident saw some fibers emerge
from intact skin and was concerned, she collected them
on the end of a Q tip, but when the attending came he
was rude,said my daughter looked fine and maybe we
should go to the dermatology dept. . I asked him to
call the CDC with what the resident saw and to let me
have a copy of the charting so I could see that what
was seen was recorded. Neither was done. I was so
dissapointed. People have been warning me that I need
to be careful or they could take custody. What a
horrible thought, although a reality.
Thanks for responding.
There is so much to this, I have to save some for
later.
PS I find very few things in my daughters hair when I
comb now, for a while there was more including red
fibers.
PSS Hang in there this is not easy but the support,
kindness, and knowlege from others on these sites is
helpful, actually the info from the posts has saved my
life.
Thanks to all

Conference

2007-11-28 15:11:23

Hello,
I'm new here and have 2 children ages 8 & 5 and I believe they have it. What signs are your kids showing? My girls both have some inflammation/infection of the vaginal area and I've seen them on the scalp. Yesterday my daughter called and said she was pretty sure there is one under her fingernail. We just moved into an apartment and tried to buy all new stuff to prevent them but no such luck. Yesterday I decided to try to save some to bring to my Dr next week - just in case - I was really shocked after doing this on and off all day while at the computer I placed them on the arm rest at the bottom of the keyboard and it was full - covered with them - that was just the ones that every time I had an itch above the neck I scratched then dropped whatever had gathered under the nail without thinking much of it - this morning I examined them with a jeweler loup which is 10x magnification - whew! Some pretty strange looking stuff. But they are very consistent in their shape and
appearance so that alone should prove there is something to it.
I may have missed your 1st post but did you have a specific question regarding kids?

Tanya [INLINE]

Conference

2007-11-28 14:48:01

What are you referring to when you say, "Them"? You know, as in, "The keyboard
is just covered with THEM", and, "I've seen them on my daughters' scalp.". What
do THEY look like? Are you making references to the fibers, or the small, white
objects which resemble dry skin flakes?
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] gastric bypass surgery - Sally

2007-11-28 06:05:31

Hi Sally, and welcome to the group!! Wow.. I think you are our first member
outside of the US, other than Canada. I am pre-op myself, but we have a lot of
people here who would love to share their experiences with you. I know you will
find the group to be helpful :)
Pat
sallycasey1 <sallycasey1@...
Hi all
I have just joined and would love to chat to anyone who has had a
gastric bypass.I am due to have a gastric bypass on 17th feb and a
little aprehensive but also excited if you can understand these mixed
emotions please chat to me and help guide me along this long journey..

Conference

2007-11-27 21:03:29

Thank-you so much. I would have been there myself if I
had the funding. The details were wonderful and
needed. My first New Years resolution was to keep a
positive attitude. Looks like it's the right track
I am still looking for others who have small children
with this.
Were there any children at the meeting?
Thanks- again for the update, it was great

Re: does anybody know what happened to "lymebusters"?

2007-11-27 18:48:00

Try this website to get there and read:
http://tinyurl.com/yrpzny

Re: Conference

2007-11-27 17:14:19

The conference in Austin was great, a huge success. I have to gather my thoughts about all of it, and I met someone there who took scrupulous notes, that I am going to ask her to forward to me-There were approximately 150 who attended-many Morgellon's sufferer's along with some medical people-I think PA's, RN's, but no MD's to my knowledge-some of the key points for those of us that suffer is to keep a positive attitude as best we can, not to isolate, good nutrition and exercise, plenty of water, raw garlic, cutting out refined carbs-all things to boost the immune system-Ginger Savely and Rafeal Stricker talked about the rotation of antibiotics, antihelmintics, antiparasitics as being critical, as "this", whatever this happens to be, adapts to the med and will no longer workm, and that treatment needs to be aggressive. For legal reasons they could not provide patient's with medication regimen, but are willing to work with MD's that contact them, seeking treatment protocols
that they have been having some success with. Also that the min time for tx of these is 18 mo, and up to 3 years using 2-3 antiinfectives at a time. Also that during treatment, symptoms seem to intensify, which I think is important to note; Antifungals have not proven to be that effective and that it is imperative to get monthly bloodwork in terms of complete blood count, metabolic profile and liver function tests to monitor the effect on the system. Also that during these heavy doses of meds it is critical to take milk thistle and sacromyces boulardii to protect the liver. It was discussed that treatment is highly variable, which makes sense.

Dr Wymore talked about his research, and did talk about how initially he found the fibers to appear as braided, under microscope, but has since learned that they appear as tubes with what looked like something wrapping around it when he put the slide up, with crystalline structures. I believe it was a polarized light scope that he used to see this, and that light can pass through the fibers, but is unable to pass through the black specs (I think I got this part right here) . He did say that they do know what the fibers are not (textile), but not what they are, and this will take ongoing GC Mass Spec experiments (don't ask me what this is, it is what I wrote in my notes though:)

Lee Mounger provided entertainment by singing with guitar. A couple of the songs were really touching, particularly one he did that he had originally sung for Cindy and Chas at their wedding. This brought tears for many, due to Chas's passing. A few of the other songs he sang were HILARIOUS, as he sang about "doctor doctor, I got this itch..." and those can be downloaded from the website -Chas Holman foundation/NMO website I believe.

Elizabeth Rasmussen was unable to be there in person, but provided her piece via recording, about how dermatology is taught.

Greg Smith, MD talked about his experiences with this, and was so heartfelt-His biggest piece was to think positive, and care for your whole body with loving attention. Use affirmations, such as saying to yourself, "I deeply and completely love and accept myself" and really believe it. My whole take from what he said was to do what is within your control towards health. Make one decision towards health, then take action on it -for example set a goal of walking three times this week and then do it- actually, I was speaking with him after the conference and talked about how I had run a marathon before this, and made a comment about how that would never happen again, due to the fatigue, and he looked at me and said "why not, is it because you don't want to or.." and I said, "you're right-I could do it again, acutually, no I don't want to, but I would run a half marathon" -His point being to think positive, set goals for yourself, and don't let your thinking get in the way of
doing what you can do now- He was funny, he said "if you have this and you are not depressed, you are in denial"-

Harriet Bishop, the President of the Texas Lyme Disease Association shared her amazing amazing story with the message of staying positive. She mentioned a couple of helpful books as well, one written by David Burns called, Feeling Good, (this is an older book that is actually very good which uses a cognitive behavioral model)- and another, also older one written by Louise Hay called You Can Heal Your Life. She is amazing, she has Lyme and Morgellon's that has affected her hands and fingers for most of her life-she didn't get a correct diagnosis for a number of years and she really suffered, but you would not know it-she seems so sweet and upbeat-also she said she is 79 and this was incredible, she looks like she is in her early to mid 60's.

Also there was a man by the name of David Gibbs who discussed Social Security Disability and he was very informative.

Mark Darrah, Research Director with Dr Citovsky's Morgellon's project, from SUNY, talked about the research there and showed slides. The initial impression was not so positive from the audience when he commented that some of the fibers could be environmental, as they stick to this sticky and waxy substance, which appears to be the focus of the research for this group. In response, Greg Smith got up to speak on his behalf, momentarily, to remind us that he is on our side. He did show a slide with an embedded fiber, and pointed this out, and also did say that there was a gentleman during the break who showed him a fiber that was moving, and he said "yes, I did see it, and it was moving" to help validate this man's experience. So as I said, initially his speech did not create feelings of "warm fuzzies" if you will, but after Greg got up and intervened and said what he said, the tension seemed to subside and the atmosphere became more relaxed.

There was a question and answer session, in which all of the presenters went up on stage and answered questions from the audience. This was for about 45 min, but could have gone on for hours if it was possible.

What was so impressive to me was the amount of love and support and also the willingness of all the presenters to make themselves available for questions etc. It was very well put together and the ability to network with others and exchange information was great. It was so interesting how people came to find out about the conference or what have you-I thought everyone belonged to one of these web groups, and over and over when I was asked about how I had found out about the conference, and I said the web/web group-there were few wh knew about the webgroups I am part of-I don't know if I would have survived this without all of the support I get from being a part of these groups.

Following the conference there was a dinner at a local mexican restaurant that you could attend (dutch of course) and this was also great-again, more opportunity to talk and network.

All in all, this did more for me in terms of support particularly, than years of therapy could do-that's just me though, maybe others felt differently ??

I did take some pictures which I will try to upload (it's my daughter's camera and she has to find the cable and then teach me how to upload them) so this may take a couple of extra days.

Hopefully this conference will become an annual event, which is something that I know a few mentioned to Cindy-who really, again, outdid herself in putting this together so well. I hope this sums it up and that I did not forget anything or anybody, and that I presented what was presented in an accurate and understandle way!

If you have any questions, feel free to email me and I will try to respond to the best of my ability.

I am so GRATEFUL that I went and will be there next year!

I cannot believe I almost forgot this: PLEASE PLEASE Email Oprah, I believe it is Oprah.com and there is a link where you can email her-in the subject line type in "Morgellons" and talk about your interest and desire that she do a show discussing our cause-ask a friend to do this also-I know that this has come up in the past, but if we ALL do this with the same subject line, hopefully we will have success (remember that old line "If at first you don't succeed, try try again) please do this for yourself and all of us!

OK, now that's all :)

Take care,

Lori

Wendy <WETRIPP@...

That thread wouldn't show for me either. I can get into LymeBusters
though.
Wendy

Re: does anybody know what happened to "lymebusters"?

2007-11-27 07:04:44

The board is acting funny and strange for some reason
and I don't know why???????????????
I thought I would share this with everyone.
Hi Everyone,
This is all I know for now............ I will get a better
report later this evening from Mark Darrah. I can't say
what anyone else revealed at the conference.
I just recieved two emails from Mark Darrah,
he told me the conference went great and I
wrote back asking for permission to post on
here what he said.
I am awaiting his response. He is so good
about responding promptly when he can.
He is a good man and definately cares about
our plight!

Re: does anybody know what happened to "lymebusters"?

2007-11-26 21:28:00

That thread wouldn't show for me either. I can get into LymeBusters
though.
Wendy

does anybody know what happened to "lymebusters"?

2007-11-26 21:01:43

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=rash
gives me "Server not found"
Not good. What's happening?
-- Niels.
PS: I wanted to checkin and see people's thoughts from the Morgellons conference in Austin.

Re: Cleaning up house?

2007-11-26 12:38:15

The fibers vacuum off of smooth surfaces. The large size sticky tape
roller at walmart or target($10) is great for sheets, fabrics,
upholstry. Home depot has a carpet sticky tape, 50 feet for about
$15. To see what you are doing, get a tube blacklight from walmart
$10 light section. To read about what you are seeing...search
for "how to find mystery chemtail fibrils by sue miller". To clean
surfaces like woodwork, windows, mirrors ect use a spray bottle with
club soda. To get itchy stuff off skin, use baking soda scrub or
clear packageing tape. To stop hair from clinging or moving, scalp
from itching, comb it out and rub with aluminum foil to pull out the
static...or, make a cute hat of it and keep it on til the sensation
calms down. Aluminum foil can also be used in the dryer for static

New and frightened

2007-11-26 10:46:34

Ha.. i wish

I am one of those who have no external symptoms ( by that i mean i have no sores, no fibers, no rashes ..), but i do have crawling, losing weight, biting and stinging sensation, pretty much all the common symptoms..i don't know if you'd call that a mild symptoms or not. (but i have lost a lot of weight..down to 115, so what i am trying to say is that all of us here are facing some sort of difficulties and challenges). Or as you'd say we are all in the same boat..

To tell you the truth i do not take the fenben, but these are the things been helping.. i do take silver about 3-5 tablespoon a day(colloidal silver) so far so good ..don't see any side effects. Low carb diet is helping me as well ( actully a lot), I exercise everyday. funny.. how easy it is to lose the motivations just sink into disparity when things aren't going well for you ..but i have put a lot of effort into it just to keep up the positive attutide ( of course my faith is the most improtant thing to me) anywho.

hope this helps and welcome to the group.

Tony

summerbreeze23342 <summerbreeze23342@...

Tony...are you symptom free?

Cleaning up house?

2007-11-26 01:45:00

Hi there - I'm hoping for advice on how you all handle cleaning your
house? I look around and I feel so overwhelmed because it seems that
there are moving fibers attached to carpets and furniture and walls and
even my bathroom mirror. And, some of my houseplants are covered, too.
Every load of laundry comes out with live critters - I pull out gobs of
hair and it's still moving. (I've been using Borax and 7th Generation).
I've been wondering about putting some clothes in the microwave to see
if that would do anything.
I can implement the suggestions about how to get rid of them within me -
but it almost seems pointless because I'll constantly be reinfected
without a plan for my house and car.
Thanks, Katherine aka, Flower Dog's Mom

Hair Care and Style

2007-11-25 14:38:51

Common Beauty Tips

Beauty tips are often no more than old adages that are handed down to each generation. Some of these misconceptions are centuries old and just plain silly. While logic doesn't seem to play a big factor in beauty myths, they're still abundant. These common beauty myths are pure fiction and deserve to take their place in the "beauty myth hall of shame."

How to grow and keep lovely long hair?

Practically all women, at some time in their lives, want to grow their hair really long.
Disregarding fashion and casting aside ideas about perms and layer cuts, more

How To Get Gorgeous Skin

Don't go to bed with makeup on. Makeup left on overnight seeps into your pores, clogs them, and congests your skin. more

New and frightened

2007-11-25 11:00:18

Some of us here are doing better or at least have the symptoms pretty much in under control with the help of Fenbendazole, silver products (such as colloidal silver, nano silver ), and also Low carb diet plays big role.

P.S

Keep up the faith, God is never absent in our struggles.

summerbreeze23342 <summerbreeze23342@...

Thank you for your comfort, Flower. But is anyone anywhere cured
from Morgs? Does salt and vitamin c work? Does anyone know anyone
who is cured?

pouch space

2007-11-25 09:28:43

I agree that taking too many vitamins takes up pouch space and I don't feel
like eating. Maybe spacing out the vits and meds IS a good idea for me?
Darlene
RNY: 11/28/07
-37lbs

help for animals

2007-11-25 00:08:39

I have treated my cat with "advantage' from the vet. It seems to have kept him from getting morg symptoms.
Lila <lilajo4u@...

I do not think there is a known "cure" yet, but aparently there is some relief for some people with fenbenzadole( an animal de-wormer) and colidial silver (which could possibly turn you blue) Other than that....I am going to try the diet of dark green veggies and meat only for a month to see if it makes any difference. I tried the silver briefly, but then quit when I heard about the blue thing. I have been on Fenbenzadole for three weeks, and so far I have been worse than ever, but am hopeful that it just means the little bastards(whatever they are) are dying off.....I also have started applying a mixture of epsom salt and warm water to skin and think it is drying it up a bit. A weird thing is that my sister and I got "Impetigo" supposedly what Amy Winehouse has...as kids and the antibiotics didn't work. My mother applied warm salt water with cotton to our lesions, and they eventually dried up.....Who knows, maybe Morgellons is a result of Impetigo. Also, you may want
to try difflucan (anti yeast/fungal) medicine. It is a pill that is by prescription only. Antifungal cream seems to help a bit too. I keep trying everything....I hope some of this information can be of help to you. ~Lila

Re: help for animals

2007-11-24 23:29:15

I would never use Advantage or any of the spot-on flea/tick products as
they are toxic pesticides. I got it on my skin one time (by accident)
and my heart began racing and felt like it was going to explode .....
it was very scarey. Wear gloves when applying it to your pets!
Wendy

New and frightened

2007-11-24 16:16:07

I do not think there is a known "cure" yet, but aparently there is some relief for some people with fenbenzadole( an animal de-wormer) and colidial silver (which could possibly turn you blue) Other than that....I am going to try the diet of dark green veggies and meat only for a month to see if it makes any difference. I tried the silver briefly, but then quit when I heard about the blue thing. I have been on Fenbenzadole for three weeks, and so far I have been worse than ever, but am hopeful that it just means the little bastards(whatever they are) are dying off.....I also have started applying a mixture of epsom salt and warm water to skin and think it is drying it up a bit. A weird thing is that my sister and I got "Impetigo" supposedly what Amy Winehouse has...as kids and the antibiotics didn't work. My mother applied warm salt water with cotton to our lesions, and they eventually dried up.....Who knows, maybe Morgellons is a result of Impetigo. Also, you may want
to try difflucan (anti yeast/fungal) medicine. It is a pill that is by prescription only. Antifungal cream seems to help a bit too. I keep trying everything....I hope some of this information can be of help to you. ~Lila
summerbreeze23342 <summerbreeze23342@...

Thank you for your comfort, Flower. But is anyone anywhere cured
from Morgs? Does salt and vitamin c work? Does anyone know anyone
who is cured?

Re: [Morgellons] New and frightened

2007-11-24 11:12:36

You are not alone!! We are all in the same boat and know the exact horror you are experiencing.....Fortunately we have some very intelligent and resourceful people that are going to bat for us and are doing everything they can to figure out an answer. Hang in there and know that others feel your pain. You have to keep your faith. I know that a cure and answers are coming soon!!!
summerbreeze23342 <summerbreeze23342@...

Hi, I'm new here. And I'm terrified.
I've been treating my Morgs with salt and vitamin c for over
10 months. Everything was going fairly well until a few months
ago. At that time I discovered that behind Morgs are some very
evil parasites that I can't fully describe without sounding totally
nuts. These parasites are fighting back and terrifying me.
My sinus was the most affected and I ended up swallowing one
of the parasites so it is now in my stomach. Everytime I take
my salt and vitamin c now it throws bubbles.
I feel very alone.
Has anyone else encountered these parasites? From what I have
blown out of my nose, they are clear as water, but look more like
shiny gelatin. There is another parasite that I have never seen but
is even worse. I won't go into that one.
I'm hoping the someone out there has also encountered this
parasite. I need comfort very badly. God isn't listening.

Re: New and frightened

2007-11-24 03:52:47

Hi there - I'm new here, too, and in a similar position. I have had
the clear gel things - initially they came out of my eyes. My
symptoms started in Sept 07 with skin hatchings and the black specks
and open weeping sores. I don't remember when the fibers started.
Maybe December? But at that time I only had fibers and none of the
other symptoms so I dismissed it... for the last 6 or 8 weeks the
weeping sores are back with a vengence - along with fibers and black
specks which I think are some kind of mite. And, I look like Medusa -
my hair is moving. I feel really overwhelmed - I can't figure out how
to kill the critters - they come out still moving from my
washer/dryer. I've been using Borax and 7th generation. Furthermore,
my dog and cats have the symptoms, too. And, I desperately need to
help them.
I know you are frightened and hurting. I'm so sorry. I wish you
healing.

Fwd: Amy's friends fear the worst as she appears with her face covered in scabs and spots

2007-11-23 21:07:27

http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/p/156/8111.aspx#8111
My reply http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/p/156/8117.aspx#8117
[quote]
Re: Amy's friends fear the worst as she appears with her face covered in scabs and spots
These articles are silly lies. "Sally Pentford" claims "this is very much what impetigo looks like" but you can look for yourselves: http://images.google.com/images?q=impetigo
I already stated my case above "not staph, not impetigo, MORGELLONS" http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/p/156/8055.aspx#8055
This information is important, so I will repeat it here:
Morgellons is most likely related to Lyme Disease;the interesting thing is that her mother suffers from MS, which is related to Lyme, along with a number of other neurodegenerative diseases plus "syndromes" like autism, ADHD, depression, mania, behavioral/mood changes, etc. Lyme can be found in families through common exposure (family cat/dog brings-in fleas/ticks) through sexual transmission, and from mother to child at childbirth. So it's possible the same bacterial infection that caused Amy's mom's MS is also what gave Amy the immune deficiency (alongside missing a lot of beauty rests as part of the "R/R" lifestyle...)... that helped her catch whatever it is she's got. If the standard treatment cures it (e.g. 40 days of antibiotics) and it doesn't come back, then it's impetigo/staph/whatever. But if it comes back, and keeps looking like the pictures I've seen, then it's well possible it's Morgellons.
W/r/t Amy Winehouse, this has to do with "drug use" in that the infection, she got from drugs... the question is were these drugs derived from crops sprayed with bioweapons? That is the subject of my latest blog entry WPAFB develops Morgellons and Gay Bomb! And the disease is clearly not impetigo, it is Morgellons Disease, related either to Lyme and Agrobacterium, or Chlamydia Pneumoniae and opportunistic parasitic infection possibly "mutant worms."
If you care about Amy as a human being, or care about her gift to the world as an artist, please help get this message to Amy. She's in for a lot of suffering and even potentially suicide if she lets the idiot denialist doctors take over and start psychoanalyzing what is clearly and obviously an infection. The drug-use may well be part of the infection as Lyme/Morgellons is so disabling when not treated w/ proper antifungal/antibiotic/antiparasitic combo, that you'd probably need stimulants and mood stabilizers just to make it through the day. The medical community already acknowledges this and prescribes strong antipsychotics for the condition ( http://nielsmayer.com/kookoo-for-psychotropics.pdf ) while claiming it ethical to lie about the true causes of the disease. But that's no different than the fact that people were locked up in insane asylums for having syphilis within the last century, or that tertiary syphilis produces lesions all over the body that might be
mistaken for drug abuse by the same kind of idiots that misdiagnose'd Amy Winehouse with impetigo.
Please see the trailer to "Under our Skin" a movie about the epidemic of Lyme Disease (which is a co-infection or related to Morgellons... and the bacteria that causes it... borrelia burgdorferi... is like the syphilis bacteria but with a few million more years of evolution behind it). Some people even think that Lyme is a Bioweapon.
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Re: Using Amy Winehouse's plight to spread the word?

2007-11-23 11:57:42

Please vote for this "story" http://showhype.com/story/amy_winehouse_not_staph_not_impetigo_morgellons/
...............

Morgellons is most likely related to Lyme Disease;the interesting thing is that her mother suffers from MS, which is related to Lyme, along with a number of other neurodegenerative diseases plus "syndromes" like autism, ADHD, depression, mania, behavioral/mood changes, etc. Lyme can be found in families through common exposure (family cat/dog brings-in fleas/ticks) through sexual transmission, and from mother to child at childbirth. So it's possible the same bacterial infection that caused Amy's mom's MS is also what gave Amy the immune deficiency (alongside missing a lot of beauty rests as part of the "R/R" lifestyle...)... that helped her catch whatever it is she's got. If the standard treatment cures it (e.g. 40 days of antibiotics) and it doesn't come back, then it's impetigo/staph/whatever. But if it comes back, and keeps looking like the pictures I've seen, then it's well possible it's Morgellons.

W/r/t Amy Winehouse, this has to do with "drug use" in that the infection, she got from drugs... the question is were these drugs derived from crops sprayed with bioweapons? That is the subject of my latest blog entry WPAFB develops Morgellons and Gay Bomb! And the disease is clearly not impetigo, it is Morgellons Disease, related either to Lyme and Agrobacterium, or Chlamydia Pneumoniae and opportunistic parasitic infection possibly "mutant worms."

Re: Eat ONLY mesat and dark green veggies for one month and you will eliminate sympt

2007-11-23 02:58:21

No fruit, no salad dressing, ACV is ok, oil is ok as long as there
are no carbohydrates in the mix. I think wine is high carb and would,
likely, interfere with success but, if you feel you must, how about
excercising the carbs off.
Rita

Using Amy Winehouse's plight to spread the word?

2007-11-23 02:58:01

**WE** could use Amy Winehouse's plight, which will be played out on TV and Tabloids Worldwide (she *is* a grammy winner, and talented) and it is a very good way to get the word out on Morgellons, and counter the spin that looking like this is related to drug abuse, and only drug abuse.
Because if that's the "marketing" we allow to dominate, **WE** will be discriminated against by **THEM** simply for having their disease, and having nothing to do with drugs or the war on drugs.
Progress report:
Looks like italy got a copy of my post to AmyWinehouse forums before it got deleted...
http://forum.egcommunity.it/showthread.php?p=583786#post583786
course i added a few more
http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/t/1519.aspx
http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/p/156/8055.aspx#8055
Please feel free to add your comments, support, etc.
I also found out (since replying to the megathread "amy news" seems to spam you w/ email)
http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/p/156/8061.aspx#8061
Quote:

Mar 26 2008 - Troubled Amy Winehouse might return to rehab in order to battle her drugs demons, it has been revealed. The singer who spent two weeks in rehab in January is likely to escape the UK and check into a rehab facility abroad.
A source told British newspaper The Sun: "Amy has admitted she needs to check into rehab again. There are too many temptations for her in the UK people around her in London are making it impossible for her to stay clean for any length of time.
"Her management had considered flying her to a clinic in Israel but are now looking further afield. They are assessing a clinic in Cape Town in South Africa." The singer whose looks have been ravaged by drug abuse claims her skin condition is impetigo, a highly contagious bacterial infection.
One medical expert said of Amy's scabby face: "The damage is quite severe, but not unusual with crack cocaine abuse. "She's got a number of sores, some of which look infected, and others that have formed ulcers."

What kind of cover story will they spin when she gets out of rehab and still looks the same? How come nobody's commenting that her husband seems to
have Morgellons too... and how do they explain "lymphatic filiarisis" type swelling with an "Impetigo" diagnosis. Enquiring minds truly want to know this time.
-- Niels.
http://nielsmayer.com

Dissectmorgellons

2007-11-22 14:51:04

Ok, try this....go to youtube. Put "Dissetmorgellons" in the search.
Or put in the topic morgellons, mystery skin dissease,or skin sores.
There are 3 videos there so far. Thanks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=uAr1XxujLiQ

Re: [Morgellons] Eat ONLY mesat and dark green veggies for one month and you will eliminate sympt

2007-11-22 14:04:29

How about salad dressings? Oil and vinegar is that
ok? No fruit?
This sounds intresting, I might give it a try. Who
elese has done this?
j
--- ritainthelibrary <ritainthelibrary@...

Re: Eat ONLY meat and green veggies for a month to eliminate Morgellons symptoms

2007-11-22 13:03:21

That heading should have been "eliminate Morgellons SYMPTOMS". Sorry
for any confusion.
Rita

Eat ONLY meat and green veggies for a month to eliminate Morgellons symptoms

2007-11-22 00:53:01

Yes, It's true. If you eat meat (no sauces) and green veggies for a
month, you will eliminate Morgellons symptoms. Salt and pepper are
allowed. You may drink only water.
It's not an easy thing to do. Who's up for it?
Rita

YouTube

2007-11-21 23:33:15

I tried to find the video that daisy posted .... the link did not work.
I did find this however:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESZxjdXD4Q
I do not want to comment here although I am wondering if Cliff
Mikelson, Randy Wymore, or Dr. Greg Smith were ever personally
contacted by this person? The statements 'sounds' like or inferrs some
personal communication which if true is great but if not extreamly
misleading.
The statement or perhaps the 'slip' referring to "our site"
(MorgellonsHope) was also interesting to me.
Wendy

Fwd: (Amy Winehouse Official Forum) Post Deleted: Amy Winehouse has Morgellons Disease, not Impetigo

2007-11-21 12:38:20

Not that deleted ... yet ...
http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/t/1519.aspx

my first video

2007-11-21 11:50:24

After 18 months of daily soda sessions to remove facial and body
lesions, and after making a photo journal since last may to prove or
disprove Steve Freys bryozoan hypothosis...i have challenged myself to
make a video to share what i am seeing. Please accept this humble
attempt to contribute to the solving of this
mystery.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAr1XxujLiQ

Fwd:Amy Winehouse has Morgellons Disease, not Impetigo

2007-11-21 05:29:00

I've been on a little PR blitz .. i've already sent "scoop" to TMZ, HollywoodInsider and various other rags...
http://amywinehouse.forums.umusic.co.uk/t/1511.aspx

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This has to do with "drug use" in that the infection Amy Winehouse got, she got from drugs... the question is were these drugs derived from crops sprayed with bioweapons?

That is the subject of my latest blog entry WPAFB develops Morgellons and Gay Bomb! And the disease is clearly not impetigo, it is Morgellons Disease, related either to Lyme and Agrobacterium, or Chlamydia Pneumoniae and opportunistic parasitic infection possibly "mutant worms."

Although drug use might damage the immune system and enable these infections to take root,t he fact that Amy is sick with this disease is not her fault. Tens of thousands are sick worldwide, and millions have the other causative disease behind this condition Lyme and CpN.

Rather than sitting around and pointing fingers... you all should be trying to help Amy get better... because this is a growing epidemic, and one day the fingers may be pointing at you, with people hissing "drug ussserr" at you as if you were a witch... but you're not, you just got an infection because the US government decided to "Gas it's own people" with bioweapons in its foolish execution of the "war on drugs."

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viral marketing for yet another morg-inspired movie "The Ruins" // Amy Winehouse markets morgellons as a "drug disease"

2007-11-20 17:12:47

it may have nothing to do with Morgellons, but if you do a google search for morgellons
or have morgellons listed in your emails, you will get an ad for this movie keyed off "morgellons"
with the title "does this guy have morgellons" or something like that

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:38 PM, <bazzazio@...

I read the book and The Ruins has nothing to do with Morgellons! It is about a group of friends on vacation in South America who stumble upon an abandoned archeological site. The site sits on top of a hill which is covered by a plant which can mimic voices, etc and is carnivorous
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viral marketing for yet another morg-inspired movie "The Ruins" // Amy Winehouse markets morgellons as a "drug disease"

2007-11-20 15:45:53

I read the book and The Ruins has nothing to do with Morgellons! It is about a
group of friends on vacation in South America who stumble upon an abandoned
archeological site. The site sits on top of a hill which is covered by a plant
which can mimic voices, etc and is carnivorous
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viral marketing for yet another morg-inspired movie "The Ruins" // Amy Winehouse markets morgellons as a "drug disease"

2007-11-20 09:53:11

....Ditto -Thank you Niels!

(by the way, is anyone here attending the Morgellons conference next weekend in Austin, TX?)

Lori
Wendy <WETRIPP@...

....and Zip I am so glad that he does!!!!!

Fwd: Dr. Koo's psychodermatology: a medical fraud based on denialism of chronic infectious disease

2007-11-20 04:20:47

I updated http://nielsmayer.com/roller/NielsMayer/entry/dr_koo_s_psychodermatology_a
Date: Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Morgellons] Re: the latest morgellons as "rapport enhancement" for DOP from Dr. Koo

The color of boogies

2007-11-19 18:41:30

A runny nose is a symptom of Morgellons. It's not a green mucus. It's a
clear, water-like mucus. The normal production of a green mucus, drying
to form boogies, is gone.
A friend of mine who has Morgellons, but doesn't see it, has a chronic
runny nose. The stuff coming out of her nose is clear.
To me it means the normal production of mucus has been hindered or
stopped but I don't know what that means.
Rita

Fwd: WPAFB develops Morgellons and Gay Bomb!

2007-11-19 18:30:42

I updated: http://nielsmayer.com/roller/NielsMayer/entry/wpafb_develops_morgellons_and_gay

Everybody's heard of the "gay bomb"... I always thought it was an apocryphal tale of the Reagan Era. Alas, a document FOIA'd from Wright-Patterson Air-Force Base has it written in plain language:

"chemicals that effect human
behavior... one distateful but nonlethal example would be strong
aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual
behavior"

The same document also provides details on the development of disease-based bioweapons that sound a lot like Morgellons disease. What is particularly striking is stated timeframe of the contract 1995-2000. In my opinion, this coincides with the timeline of the rise of Morgellons:

* 1995 - Approximate date that NPA started recording cases of "an
increasing number of individuals reporting lice or scabies but
describing symptoms inconsistent with either of these parasites."
* 1998, Dec - Oldest archived version of the NUSPA web site.
* 1999, Feb -Postings on parasite mailing list mention parasites that look like "lint" and "hairs". (Posts byJules and Curtis W. King.)
* 1999, Oct - Posting on "Elliot's Disease", mentions involvement with the NPA.
* 2000, Feb - NPA has a "Reporting Registry" for Elliot's Disease (or: "undetermined pathogens which may mimic lice and scabies")
* 2001, Summer, Mary Leitao finds fibers on her son's skin. She finds a "Scabies Forum" on the internet where people are discussing finding fibers.
* 2001, Nov - Neuro-cutaneous Syndrome (NCS): A New Disorder, published by Omar M. Amin in Discover Magazine.
* 2002, March - Morgellons.com and Morgellons.org domain names registered.
* 2002, July - Posting by Mary Leitao on medhelp.org mentions morgellons.org
* 2003, Jun - The Morgellons Foundation, first recorded web site on archive.org.

What is also interesting is around this same time-frame, searching bulletin-boards where medical professionals "talk shop"... there is a noticeable rise in dermatologists going "what's with the sudden increase in delusional parasitosis cases??" They'd note that in previous years, they'd seen at most one or two cases PER YEAR. Now they were seeing one or two cases PER MONTH. This began around 1995-1996. For a disease that is officially supposed to be "very rare" it is odd that there are no meta-analyses of the unexpected rapid rise in DOP cases.

The FOIA'd document details the kind of bioweapons being produced by the USAF, despite the fact that such weapons are banned by the Geneva Conventions:

"Chemicals that can be sprayed onto enemy positions or onto infiltration routes used by enemy forces. Three classes of chemical weapon are proposed:
Category #1: Chemicals that attract annoying creatures to the enemy position and make the creatures aggressive and annoying. Stinging and biting bugs, rodents, and larger animals would be candidates to be drawn to the enemy positions."

Most morgellons patients notice a significantly increased attraction by biting insects, in addition to already having skin that is on "hair trigger" for crawling sensations. If one were to find an insect on you, one remains more vigilant for others for a while... it's probably a natural neurological response. Morgellons patients rarely get to exit that state, except after IMHO appropriate antibiotic/antifungal/antiparasitic treatment as suggested in the latest serious peer-reviewed paper on morgellons, from a non-quack-psychiatry-based viewpoint (aka not "dr" John Koo's psychodermatology).

"Category #2: Chemicals that make lasting but nonlethal markings on the personnel.
(a) Those that were exposed to the chemicals during travel on infiltration routes or from being sprayed while in the enemy camp could be easily identified (by smell or appearance) weeks later, making it impossible for them to blend with the local population. The chemical marking should also be annoying to the exposed individuals and to those around him/her. Spray equipment could be used as part of a perimeter defense system (if decontamination for friendly forces is available).
(b) A variation on the theme would be that we would have the counteracting treatment, and affected personnel would have to come to us for the treatment. This version would be especially suitable for use against mixtures of enemy forces and non-combatants. Civilians would come to us for treatment, and the enemy forces that did not seek treatment could be identified.
(c) A more subtle version would be some lasting chemical marker that was not obvious to humans, but would be obvious to trained dogs or special detecting equipment. These chemicals could be sprayed on infiltration routes. Marked individuals would not know they were marked, and would not know how the dogs/equipment identified them."

Such "markings" and feelings "annoying to the exposed individuals" look like this picture from EMSResponder.com article on Morgellons. The caption reads "AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli ROSEVILLE
CA USA -- Verna Gallagher, who claims to be suffering from a rare
infliction called, Morgellons, points to a sore on her skin that she
believes the bugs of the condition emerged from, at her Roseville,
Calif., home, Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2006. Like others with the condition,
Gallagher, 48, said she has a crawling sensation on her skin, that is
caused by bugs that emerge from the skin but do not act like they are."

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"Category #3: Chemicals That effect (sic) human behavior so that discipline and morale in enemy units is adversely effected (sic). One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior. Another example would be a chemical that made personnel very sensitive to sunlight."

Two major epicenters of this disease are Los Angeles and San Francisco -- with the latter being one of the "red zones" from morgellons.org data, and also a major center of "homosexual behavior" and equally liberal/tine heterosexual behavior as well. 'Nuff said...

Finally, a timeline is offered in the WPAFB bioweapons contract:. Note that "field tests" of the bioweapon end Sept. 98, and the first NUSPA site appears December '98:

Project Plan: (Assume start date 1 Oct 94)
a. Step 1: select/assign DOD organizations with expertise to run/participate in the development programs. Participating organizations should provide knowledge about medicine, chemical manufacturing, and weapons applications/use. Completion Feb 95.
b. Step 2: select types/categories of chemicals to be developed (Completion 1 May 95) Then, have various companies develop chemicals and conduct laboratory tests. Complete 1 Dec 97.
d.(sic) Step 3: Conduct field tests in different climates/conditions with chemicals known to have acceptable toxicity to determine effectiveness and best application techniques/procedures. Completion 1 Sep 98.
e. Step 4: Produce effective and safe chemicals in large quantities and conduct operational evaluations, so perhaps include selected use during actual hostilities.
Complete 1 Sep 00

Now the question is ... what constitutes "hostilities?" Does the "war on drugs" count as a "hostility"? Because, apparently, the fusarium-based defoliant they've been spraying on drug crops appears to be affecting humans too! -- http://www.narconews.com/~myco/Mycoherbicide.info/

And true to the FOIA'd document, humans exposed to these bioweapons "anywhere along the infiltration route" would create lasting markings (smell or appearance) on exposed personnel. The obvious markings should also be annoying to exposed and adjacent personnel, and difficult or impossible to remove."

What do those "lasting markings" that are annoying and impossible to remove look like? They look like Amy Winehouse who appears to have Morgellons
wineh.jpg arm.jpg

But of course the tabloids are blaming her appearance on drug-abuse . That is a completely bogus argument... We've seen tons of major drug abusers in the 60's and 70's -- rock stars and Hollywood types -- and none of them looked anything like dermatologists are claiming as "drug induced formication" "drug induced delusional parasitosis" "coke mites" etc. The reality is that the DEA is putting up pictures of people with Morgellons as prototypical "this is how drug users look" but the reality is that the "look" has nothing to do with drug abuse, and everything to do with bioweapons designed to kill drug crops and "mark" drug users. So now drug users look like this: http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/photo_8.html whereas in the past they looked like this: http://ratorecordsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/csny-dj-vu-more.html ... Same drugs... what changed?
What changed is the War on Drugs and these "marking" bioweapons as outlined in the WPAFB documents FOIA'd above. The Mother Jones article "Drug Control or Biowarfare?" may well be the smoking gun of Morgellons where crop-control fusarium is shown to be infecting humans, farm animals, and effecting crops other than the target. The fusarium link with Morgellons is strong. The odd "silentsuperbug" site claims Morgellons is a genetcally modified fusarium crossed with a cyanobacteria...

Unfortunately, with the significant rise in Morgellons cases, and the fact that babies and young children that are clearly not drug abusers are getting this disease. It is clear that the infection has "escaped containment" and is no longer just afflicting drug users taking bioweapon-tainted drugs and spread to "mark" their immediate family and friends for further discrimination.

The issue is that people suffering from this emerging epidemic are not taken seriously -- they are immediately discriminated-against by the medical profession, the workplace and peers as "looking like a drug user." But they're a law-abiding citizen infected by the US's illegal (against Geneva Conventions) and immoral use of Bioweapons against it's own citizens. The public health costs of these bioweapons spreading suffering and death worldwide indicates that the war on drugs is truly an evil construct, causing far more suffering and societal damage than drug abuse could ever cause, both in terms of disease, lost productivity, broken families, and the USA's ranking as the country with the highest incarceration rate in the world.

The sunshine-project that FOIA'd the WPAFB document has the following observations on the US's use of bioweapons to fight the "war on drugs." -- http://www.sunshine-project.org/publications/bk/bk14.html
Apparently, although it's ok for the US to poison crops in Colombia and Peru, Florida balked at being the target of these bioweapons because it is so colossally stupid to use them:
As the head of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection pointed out: "Fusarium
species are capable of evolving rapidly. Mutagenicity is by far the
most disturbing factor in attempting to use a Fusarium species as a
bioherbicide. It is difficult, if not impossible to control the spread
of Fusarium species. The mutated fungi can cause disease in large
number of crops, including tomatoes, peppers, flowers, corn and vines
and are normally considered a threat to farmers as a pest, rather than
as a pesticide. () Fusarium species are more active in warm soils and
can stay resident in the soil for years. Their longevity and enhanced
activity under Florida conditions are of concern, as this could lead to
an increased risk of mutagenicity.

Re: [Morgellons] Wright-Patterson AFB develops Morgellons AND the "gay bomb"

2007-11-19 03:25:36

Niels,

VERY GOOD POST. I read this last week that Amy Winehouse has been diagnoses with, "The extremely contagious infection known as IMPETIGO". What's downright laughable is that in 2006, while being seen at the Dermatology clinic at Oregon Health Sciences University, I had five residents and the head of the clinic all walking around, and examining my completely naked body while I stood, humiliated, in the middle of the room. One female pointed out to the Cheif that I had pigmentation and skin changes covering my entire back that she had never seen on a patient or in a book before. She wanted to biopsy several areas and have them tested. The Cheif chewed her out for what was basically DOING WHAT EVERY GOOD DOCTOR SHOULD DO.............TEST ANYTHING THAT SEEMS ODD OR STRANGE. He told her that I had NOT come in to see them about pigmentation issues, I had come in because of the lesions covering my face, upper back, arms and lower legs, and that she should NOT WORRY ABOUT THE
OTHER ISSUE BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE HER FOREVER IF SHE DID THAT WITH EVERY PATIENT. He then proclaimed, "I don't NEED to do a biopsy because it should be obvious to all of you what the problem is......it is to me!" He told me I had a case of IMPETIGO, and went on to tell me it is the most common bacteria in the world and covers just about everything in the world, from phones and keyboards, to bathroom counters, steering wheels, playground equipment, etc. He told me he sees acne patients who get it constantly, and that they get it because they CONSTANTLY PICK AT AND CAUSE THEIR SORES TO WORSEN, THEREBY INTRODUCING THE BACTERIA. He gave me a script for ABX ointment, and told the female resident to go ahead and biopsy one of the lesions, just as practice for HER. HE was a jerk to me, and said he was POSITIVE OF WHAT I HAD. HE SAID HE HAD ONLY SEEN A MILLION OR SO CASES OF IMPETIGO IN HIS CAREER.

Fast forward one week. I get a phone call from the Dermatology clinic stating that I needed to re-appoint because my biopsy was definitely NOT IMPETIGO............IN FACT, THEY WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT IT WAS. I went back, was biopsied and examined again..........this time the same ASSHOLE TOLD ME I HAD A STAPH INFECTION. He also gave me a lecture about nervous picking and how I might not even realize that I HAD AN OBSESSIVE DISORDER WHICH WAS CAUSING ME TO DESTROY MY SKIN AND WOULD I LIKE HIM TO WRITE ME A PRESCRIPTION FOR WELLBUTRIN??? I told him I was EXTREMELY CAREFUL NOT to EVER pick at my skin because I worked with the public, was a former model and I knew I would destroy and scar the crap out of my skin!!!!!!! He was so demeaning to me, and basically told me I was full of shit.

Fast forward one week. I get ANOTHER call from OHSU stating I needed to re-appoint because the bacteria was NOT STAPH................IN FACT, THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

I never went back. When the day finally arrives that vindicates ALL OF US, THIS TEACHING HOSPITAL, (where apparently they teach new Doctors how to belittle, demean, dehuminize and ignore their patients), WILL BE THE FIRST PLACE I TAKE THE JOURNAL ARTICLE TO. I WILL CAMP OUT IN THE WAITING ROOM OF THAT GODDAMN DERMATOLOGY CLINIC AND CALL THE PRESS WHILE I CHEW OUT THE CHEIF DERMATOLOGIST.

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh. What a day that will be, EH? IT's COMING SOON FOLKS, I KNOW IT.

Niels Mayer <NielsMayer@...

WPAFB develops Morgellons and Gay Bomb!
Everybody's heard of the "gay bomb"... I always thought it was an apocryphal tale of the Reagan Era. Alas, a document FOIA'd from Wright-Patterson Air-Force Base has it written in plain language:

"chemicals that effect human
behavior... one distateful but nonlethal example would be strong
aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual
behavior"

The same document also provides details on the development of disease-based bioweapons that sound a lot like Morgellons disease. What is particularly striking is stated timeframe of the contract 1995-2000. In my opinion, this coincides with the timeline of the rise of Morgellons:

* 1995 - Approximate date that NPA started recording cases of "an
increasing number of individuals reporting lice or scabies but
describing symptoms inconsistent with either of these parasites."
* 1998, Dec - Oldest archived version of the NUSPA web site.
* 1999, Feb -Postings on parasite mailing list mention parasites that look like "lint" and "hairs". (Posts byJules and Curtis W. King.)
* 1999, Oct - Posting on "Elliot's Disease", mentions involvement with the NPA.
* 2000, Feb - NPA has a "Reporting Registry" for Elliot's Disease (or: "undetermined pathogens which may mimic lice and scabies")
* 2001, Summer, Mary Leitao finds fibers on her son's skin. She finds a "Scabies Forum" on the internet where people are discussing finding fibers.
* 2001, Nov - Neuro-cutaneous Syndrome (NCS): A New Disorder, published by Omar M. Amin in Discover Magazine.
* 2002, March - Morgellons.com and Morgellons.org domain names registered.
* 2002, July - Posting by Mary Leitao on medhelp.org mentions morgellons.org
* 2003, Jun - The Morgellons Foundation, first recorded web site on archive.org.

What is also interesting is around this same time-frame, searching bulletin-boards where medical professionals "talk shop"... there is a noticeable rise in dermatologists going "what's with the sudden increase in delusional parasitosis cases??" They'd note that in previous years, they'd seen at most one or two cases PER YEAR. Now they were seeing one or two cases PER MONTH. This began around 1995-1996. For a disease that is officially supposed to be "very rare" it is odd that there are no meta-analyses of the unexpected rapid rise in DOP cases.
The FOIA'd document details the kind of bioweapons being produced by the USAF, despite the fact that such weapons are banned by the Geneva Conventions:

Chemicals that can be sprayed onto enemy positions or onto infiltration routes used by enemy forces. Three classes of chemical weapon are proposed:
Categorty #1: Chemicals that attract annoying creatures to the enemy position and make the creatures aggressive and annoying. Stinging and biting bugs, rodents, and larger animals would be candidates to be drawn to the enemy positions.
Category #2: Chemicals that make lasting but nonlethal markings on the personnel.
(a) Those that were exposed to the chemicals during travel on infiltration routes or from being sprayed while in the enemy camp could be easily identified (by smell or appearance) weeks later, making it impossible for them to blend with the local population. The chemical marking should also be annoying to the exposed individuals and to those around him/her. Spray equipment could be used as part of a perimeter defense system (if decontamination for friendly forces is available).
(b) A variation on the theme would be that we would have the counteracting treatment, and affected personnel would have to come to us for the treatment. This version would be especially suitable for use against mixtures of enemy forces and non-combatants. Civilians would come to us for treatment, and the enemy forces that did not seek treatment could be identified.
(c) A more subtle version would be some lasting chemical marker that was not obvious to humans, but would be obvious to trained dogs or special detecting equipment. These chemicals could be sprayed on infiltration routes. Marked individuals would not know they were marked, and would not know how the dogs/equipment identified them
Category #3: Chemicals That effect (sic) human behavior so that discipline and morale in enemy units is adversely effected (sic). One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior. Another example would be a chemical that made personnel very sensitive to sunlight.

Finally, a timeline is offered in the WPAFB bioweapons contract:. Note that "field tests" of the bioweapon end Sept. 98, and the first NUSPA site appears December '98:

Project Plan: (Assume start date 1 Oct 94)
a. Step 1: select/assign DOD organizations with expertise to run/participate in the development programs. Participating organizations should provide knowledge about medicine, chemical manufacturing, and weapons applications/use. Completion Feb 95.
b. Step 2: select types/categories of chemicals to be developed (Completion 1 May 95) Then, have various companies develop chemicals and conduct laboratory tests. Complete 1 Dec 97.
d.(sic) Step 3: Conduct field tests in different climates/conditions with chemicals known to have acceptable toxicity to determine effectiveness and best application techniques/procedures. Completion 1 Sep 98.
e. Step 4: Produce effective and safe chemicals in large quantities and conduct operational evaluations, so perhaps include selected use during actual hostilities.
Complete 1 Sep 00

Now the question is ... what constitutes "hostilities?" Does the "war on drugs" count as a "hostility"? Because apparently the fusarium-based defoliant they've been spraying on drug crops appears to be affecting humans: http://www.narconews.com/~myco/Mycoherbicide.info/
And true to the FOIA'd document, humans exposed to these bioweapons "anywhere along the infiltration route" would create lasting markings (smell or appearance) on exposed personnel. The obvious markings should also be annoying to exposed and adjacent personnel, and difficult or impossible to remove."
What do those "lasting markings" that are annoying and impossible to remove look like? They look like Amy Winehouse who appears to have Morgellons
wineh.jpg arm.jpg
But of course the tabloids are blaming her appearance on drug-abuse . That is a completely bogus argument... We've seen tons of major drug abusers in the 60's and 70's -- rock stars and Hollywood types -- and none of them looked anything like dermatologists are claiming as "drug induced formication" "drug induced delusional parasitosis" "coke mites" etc. The reality is that the DEA is putting up pictures of people with Morgellons as prototypical "this is how drug users look" but the reality is that the "look" has nothing to do with drug abuse, and everything to do with bioweapons designed to kill drug crops and "mark" drug users. So now drug users look like this: http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/photo_8.html whereas in the past they looked like this: http://ratorecordsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/csny-dj-vu-more.html ... Same drugs... what changed?
What changed is the War on Drugs and these "marking" bioweapons as outlined in the WPAFB documents FOIA'd above. The Mother Jones article "Drug Control or Biowarfare?" may well be the smoking gun of Morgellons where crop-control fusarium is shown to be infecting humans, farm animals, and effecting crops other than the target. The fusarium link with Morgellons is strong. The odd "silentsuperbug" site claims Morgellons is a genetcally modified fusarium crossed with a cyanobacteria...
Unfortunately, with the sigificant rise in Morgellons cases, and the fact that babies and young children that are clearly not drug abusers are getting this disease. It is clear that the infection has "escaped containment" and is no longer just afflicting drug users taking bioweapon-tainted drugs and spread to "mark" their immediate family and friends for further discrimination.
The issue is that people suffering from this emerging epidemic are not taken seriously -- they are immediatly discriminated-against by the medical profession, the workplace and peers as "looking like a drug user." But they're a law-abiding citizen infected by the US's illegal (against Geneva Conventions) and immoral use of Bioweapons against it's own citizens. The public health costs of these bioweapons spreading suffering and death worldwide indicates that the war on drugs is truly an evil construct, causing far more suffering and societal damage than drug abuse could ever cause, both in terms of disease, lost productivity, broken families, and the USA's ranking as the country with the highest incarceration rate in the world.

the latest morgellons as "rapport enhancement" for DOP from Dr. Koo

2007-11-19 00:17:44

BTW, I noticed yet another ethically-challenged passage from Dr. KooKoo's latest paper -- http://nielsmayer.com/kookoo-for-psychotropics.pdf

"A peculiar finding is that patients have been
reported to have recovered through the use of
antibiotics (14). These antibiotics may have
worked because of the placebo effect or their antiinflammatory
action. However, unless there is
evidence of a secondary infection, it is not advisable
to prescribe antibiotics to these patients. When
antibiotics elicit positive results, patients may
become increasingly convinced that their condition
is the result of an infectious microbe, and use this
as further evidence of infestation."

The reference #14: Harvey WT. Morgellons disease. J Am Acad Dermatol 2007:56: 705706.
CAN YOU SAY LYME DISEASE, DR. KOOKOO??
The paper mentions all sorts of off-the wall etiologies in it's feeble brushoff of a "DOP rule-out" prior to going off half-cocked in the land of quack psychodermatology:

"Strongyloides stercoralis, Cryptococcus neoformans, and various other bacteria, although there has not been published information on a positive confirmatory test."

Not once in this paper do these idiots actually act as if they have ethics and report the full story -- which is that Doctors like Stricker and Savely (and other LLMDs) are prescribing antibiotics because their patients garner a formal "Lyme Disease" diagnosis based on ILADS guidelines
which include both clinical and serological diagnoses, based on non-corrupt full-band testing provided by companies like http://igenex.com or http://www.bowen.org ; Koo and company references the first Stricker/Savely/Leitao paper which sugg